Excess Weight ??

[rlortie]

LIb,

Yes I could be lazy too! In order to relieve the the question of your design I could simply say that you have four wheels, two of each size Weights are transferred between them. we will call one size wheel #1 and the other #2

Now everyone knows the answer to 1x2=2/1 and that could be the end of it.

I do not do that because I am not so lazy to write it off that easy. I am unable to answer your direct questioning in good faith, as I am not sure they would be correct in my own mind.

EDIT: Here is something I just picked up on!

Here lies 1 problem, I have to calculate the ratio that will cause those connected weights to lift all other weights in the system.

If the four wheels are to work in unison then ratio is irrelevant just as my little equation, they will and must equal!

Ralph

[LustInBlack]

Ralph, as usual, I admire your neutrality.

And I also encourage you to kick my ass once in a while, so I get to work..

[Sevich]

LIB wrote the following:

I'm too lasy to build

Maybe I'm so lazy

problem is my current state of mind

I need motivation

How do you motivate yourself

yes I'm lazy

to be so lazy

so I keep being lazy

Tackling this problem does'nt have to be difficult. The following are my quick fix solutions:


* 5 minute exercise upon waking up every morning

* enjoy a quality morning breakfast (less is better)

* do not eat junk food during the day (especialy during PM work)

* do not drink any alcohol while doing any sort of PM work

* do not drink more than three cups of coffee/tea per day

* do not drink any soft drink during the day (only water/milk)

* keep sugar levels low

* if you're fat, then you must start a subtle diet

* increase your fruit & vegetables intake and decrease red meat

* do not listen to the radio while doing PM work

* do not watch the TV while working on PM

* smoking is OK during PM work, no more than one pack a day and no pot!

* keep PC away from PM workshop lest you're tempted to log on "besslerwheel.com" every 15 minutes

* if it's too hot, then turn on the fan/open window/turn air cond to on position/open the door/or simply think cool :)

* if it's too cold, then .....same as above except in reverse! ....think warm!


Thats it!! ....did I leave anything out? Oh ..I almost forgot. Keep a Bible always handy at every PM workshop. I know you will all agree ;)

[Michael]

You forgot about porn.

[Sevich]

Howdy Michael...

Yes I believe this state of mind can seriously interfere in important PM work, but these evils can be overcome with determination and constant reading of the holy book. One must keep these flying demons from settling/nesting on one's mind!

These cheap uncontroled un-natural urges of the vision are all part of the family of disorders! But for others (christians) reading into this, may I suggest the above remedy.

If the problem still persists, then see your doctor regarding chemical castration or the likes!! ...lol

[Fletcher]

LOL Sevich :)

[LustInBlack]

Ralph: I revised your previous post :

If the four wheels are to work in unison then ratio is irrelevant just as my little equation, they will and must equal!

The 4 wheels work in unison, BUT, the weights on the inner wheels do not.

The falling side weights fall at the rate dictated by gravity because they are free to fall on that side.

They follow wheel speed on lifting side.

You understand that what drives the bigger wheels are the falling weights.

There are no real gears in that design, the wheels are not directly linked.

Hopefully, tomorrow I'll get to work on the physical model and clear things up when I'm done.

2 possible results : Success or Failure.
But 1 possible outcome : Learning.

[LustInBlack]

Micheal: 8]

Sevich: Everything in my life has been controlled by my state of mind, and I also found that a Rich routine helps motivation .. But I lost that determination..

Strangely, I believe it had to do with learning new things about life; like social behavior, beer, friends.. 8]

I had less time to think about how I should "evolve" [In what I should believe]...

I don't know if that is making any sense .. ;]

[rlortie]

Lib,

2 possible results : Success or Failure.
But 1 possible outcome : Learning.

That is a good start, your glass is not half empty or half full. But you have left room for optimistic values to add more.

I note that your rep bar is up to well respected! congratulations. Now pay heed to subject matter and get either a simm or a PROTO of your design under your belt.

IMO you have not been getting any design feed back because your drawing with the red and blue lines reminds me of a two axle steam locomotive after a head on collision! Now that is in jest but it's the best description I can come up with. If such a statement rattles some determination then it is worth it!

Everything in my life has been controlled by my state of mind, and I also found that a Rich routine helps motivation .. But I lost that determination..

In my upbringing that is the description for a spoiled rotten brat. To many riches without the need of determination to earn it for ones self.

I had less time to think about how I should "evolve" [In what I should believe]...

Believe in yourself and the fact that you cannot sell anything with determination, unless you can sell yourself on it first. That includes wheel designs. Never buy from a salesman who is not sold on his own product.

Ralph

[Sevich]

Hello fellow Orffyreusians?

LIB wrote:

[in what should I believe]

For a start, get rid of your "Lust" in your Lust in Black and just settle with "In The Black" or what ever? and for Gods sake, eliminate that "666" from your email, it's an eye sore and really stands out! ..LOL


On a serious note LIB. Your other quote which states:

But I lost that determination

Determination comes only when one believes/finds a breakthrough in PM research and is so filled with excitement, that his/her energy levels work to such an extent that they can't sleep at night without thinkin! ...aaaahh...your time will come man, and what a disapointment you'll get ..lol...lol !!! :) ..it's all part of the fun! Dust yourself off and through yourself back in the Bessler ring mate!


Just a pointer in the way I'm cutting down the time and cost in PM testing!

I've tracked down a factory here in sydney not far from my home that manufactures Polystyrofoam cut to any shape and size, I'm sure you'll have the same in every State of the USA. Anyways, I went to the office and asked how much it would cost for say, a disk of 26mm (1 inch) thickness and a diameter of 450mm or 17.70 inchs. They replied that I needed to spend of a minium of $50.00 for them to make it worth their while and have a quantity of no less than 30 discs cut out.

I've been using these polystyrofoam discs for well over a 5 months now and I can say that it is the best to do PM work. You'll also need to buy a pack of "bamboo or hardwood skewers - (BBQ-rods) ...actually, a steel rod is ideal for the wheels center shaft! Just poke it through the exact middle and glue it with "2 part epoxy glue" ..and "SHESAM"!! next, make a simple pine stand glued with small washers at the top to hold the shaft in place. The rest is easy, just jab in the short wooden skewers into the foam disc wherever you please. Chop & change, mix & match, and combination to your hearts content.

please note that polystyrofoam is sold in around 5 densities. The one I found the best was the most densest, stiffest and lightest, I reckon I got a bargan at $50.00 for 30 TOP quality discs.

[LustInBlack]

I note that your rep bar is up to well respected! congratulations. Now pay heed to subject matter and get either a simm or a PROTO of your design under your belt.

Yeah thanks to you for the reputation increase.. ;]

IMO you have not been getting any design feed back because your drawing with the red and blue lines reminds me of a two axle steam locomotive after a head on collision! Now that is in jest but it's the best description I can come up with. If such a statement rattles some determination then it is worth it!

Hmm I don't understand what you mean here..

Everything in my life has been controlled by my state of mind, and I also found that a Rich routine helps motivation .. But I lost that determination..

In my upbringing that is the description for a spoiled rotten brat. To many riches without the need of determination to earn it for ones self.

Hmm not sure here either what you mean.. But translation didn't make it any clearer.. But how I see it, my choice of the term "rich" was a mistake!
By Rich I meant a routine high in activities..
I am not rich and not spoiled in any way ..

Believe in yourself and the fact that you cannot sell anything with determination, unless you can sell yourself on it first. That includes wheel designs.

I believe in myself.. The problem is not there..
It is more a question of finding the motivation to continue.

[LustInBlack]

For a start, get rid of your "Lust" in your Lust in Black and just settle with "In The Black" or what ever? and for Gods sake, eliminate that "666" from your email, it's an eye sore and really stands out! ..LOL

Heheh..
Lust In Black was just to make my nickname less common, I wanted BlackLust, but it's too common. Which for me, means : Loves to be in the dark; which means : Love to not know what the future will be.

666 doesn't mean anything, for me .. I don't believe that this number refers to a deamon of anything .. I just find it amusing that it's a symbol.
My real email is not that address.. This email is a dummy I made so I could log on MSN messenger (that I don't really use), that's why I didn't take that seriously..

On another note, it looks like some here see me as someone filled with lust and a person that is "material" so to speak.. Which is not.. I believe I am more like the common inventor... Late at night you go to sleep, and you don't sleep but think and during the day, you spend all your time experimenting and learning different things..

However, I am more chaotic than that.

On a serious note LIB. Your other quote which states: But I lost that determination

Determination comes only when one believes/finds a breakthrough in PM research and is so filled with excitement, that his/her energy levels work to such an extent that they can't sleep at night without thinkin!

That's something I adhere to .. I am a very chaotic sleeper.. I don't sleep well.. But looks like I don't need too.. Many times I find ideas during the night and create.. But Yes it's true that these last days I lost some interest in creating new wheels.. I need to solve this one wheel I show here.

...aaaahh...your time will come man, and what a disapointment you'll get ..lol...lol !!! :) ..it's all part of the fun! Dust yourself off and through yourself back in the Bessler ring mate!

Almost there, I'll find the answer ... ;]



Anyways, what was the original subject of this thread!??

[ken_behrendt]

I think periodic "vacations" or "sabbaticals" from the PM quest are, sadly, occasionally required. They allow one to refresh his mind, get rid of pre-conceived notions or mental ruts that may be inhibiting progress, and to take stock in what has or, rather, has not been achieved. It's somewhat like body building. Those who are in the gym everyday for six hours of weight training will eventually burn out (known as "overtraining") and actually begin to lose muscle mass. The human body and mind can only perform continuously at a certain level and, when one, by sheer force of will, tries to exceed that level for too long a time, performance and health are sure to suffer.

How long should one take a "layoff" for? That will vary widely from mobilist to mobilist. In general, I would say that any break from the subject should last as long as one needs. You'll know it's time to return when you suddenly have an design in mind that you are 100% positive will work and you can not wait to test it.


ken

[jim_mich]

when you suddenly have an design in mind that you are 100% positive will work and you can not wait to test it.

Golly, I've NEVER had a design that I was 100% positive would work! Many designs are "I know they won't work." and a few designs are "Interesting and deserve a closer look." Once in a while I run across a design that is "So much different and unique" and looks so promissing that I get my hopes up that it might be the one. Even then I face reality and know deep down in my heart that there may be something about it that I don't initially see as to why it won't work.

You might call me an optomistic skeptic. I reserve "100% positive" for a wheel that is physically turning in front of me!

[LustInBlack]

Ken : I believe so !

I just had a spark idea (I like to call them like that) that came right into my mind without any effort on my part. . (twin-rotor).

Just thinking about 1 wheel model is killing me, I think that's why I need to turn off the monitor and think of something .


Jim: One day, I came up with a design that made 5 turns.. At first I thought I had a runner, and I wasn't even happy about it, I was like : hmm ok, so my search is already over?! no more fun !? ..

For me, the fun is creating .. I don't care if I don't have a runner..
If I ever have a runner, I'll give it on the forum, and seek something else...