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rlortie wrote:
Most engineers make use of math but for some reason pm searchers abhor it. My point was that makes no sense
I gleefully jump up and say; I fit that description!

Ralph
Why does this matter or AB Hammer having "vision" for that matter ? They have what is called the Keel Effect. If a line is drawn through the axle from 3 o'clock to 6 o'clock you have a Keel Line. Then just count the weights above and below that line. If there are not more weights above the Keel Line then that design is a non-runner. This saves a lot of work. Unfortunately I disagreed with them so if this build of mine works then it's all my fault because I did not listen to rlortie and AB Hammer.

and if anyone is wondering who rlortie was quoting, it is someone who posted as Bessler007.
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rlortie said it best

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... c&start=75
Well there goes the neighborhood again. First its P-motion, and then Jim_L and now its Jim_Lindgaard. How many time is this guy going to re-register simply to harass us through me.
Now many incarnations between way back then and now john.smith

You where so off the wall I tried to help you out saying.
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Please give it a rest!! you are not achieving anything.
ps that is 3 to 9
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What I found in my inbox today. I think it's "sound" advice ;-)
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This is what was in my mailbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAlLbTZ ... ubs_digest

and this is AB Hammer at his best chasing me :-D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRwQjTYfGI
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THE SECRET IS ONLY A SECRET BECAUSE MANY DO NOT KNOW ...K .WAENGA .. originalbesslerwheel.com
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NEVER WAVER FROM THE MISSION AT HAND, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND FAITH IN GOD ...K. WAENGA.
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P-Motion wrote:
bluesgtr44 wrote:
Here is the math that the idea is based on.
One more time...please help me understand....this thing is going to accelerate. I see absolutely nothing from you displaying this obvious phenomenon. I have no idea why you ignore my questions! If you say you have the math....show me the math!

Jim, I know trig....maybe not as good as you, but....this is not about "just trig"....it is going to accelerate and there are some other things that have to be factored in. Show me the math...not just a moment in time....what is the max RPM for a wheel of "?" diameter with "X" amount of weights applied at "?" diameter from the axle at "X" o'clock position to apply "?!?" amount of force.....whew! So, just what the hell are you talking about! I'm not an idiot....back off guys, back off! ;-)...lmao


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Tell you whatr Steve. I have asked to have my account deleted.
It'll be easier to build one that works without having people like you in my life.
It is kind of amazing that I could come up with a design for one of Bessler's Wheels in 2 months.
I guess spending time studying paid off. And if it doesn't work, I will ahve an idea why ebcuase I will have used a standard to determine how well the attempt is.
Of course,my friends would say greta to make me feel better, but that would not help me to undersatand why the designed doid not performa s anticipated.
And i think this is where I have done a good job of being critical of my designs, by not making vague statements.
And I don't think it is arrogant of me to offer an opinion based on years of studying a behavior relative to an engineering standard.
Jealousy is what I think of. And I told Alan that the wheel he is working on, that Bessler might have been inspired by the Trebuchet. Somehting modern engineers said couldn't work. Yet it was a seige engine for a millenium. And now, it is a marvel in and of itself for how it uses leverage to generate massive amounts of force.
Gen. Patton said history is an excellent guide. He is right.
Which account were you talking about Mr Fraud. Maybe you should ask again.
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This is scary. You're going back over 15 years to attack me?
The police will wonder about this. I have no choice now. I do think you and Alan mean to cause me harm. I can't believe anything else. The police will be notified.
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Walt, let's consider what the law allows for. Okay?
AB Hammer can have someone hold on to his anvil while he is teaching a young boy how to be an American. And while he is forcefully thrusting from behind, he is only teaching him armoring.
Boys do need to be taught what it is to be a man, right? Who better to teach them than a man? This is where Walt and ME are both right, it takes a man to make a man out of a boy.
No laws were broken in this posting. Words are simply what you make of them.
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Walt, that is why I prefer working with people. When people are victims, no one should expect a good outcome. I think the US sucks. Thankfully we have Trump who cheats on his taxes as well as his wives. Could you hope for a better leader?
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And for AB Hammer to consider me credible, will I need to be alone with him in his shop? I can't say why he made that specific request.
He can answ it. Sorry Alan but it is what you wanted. I can't say why.
To defend you, you wanted a perpetual motion machine.
That is in your defence. Attacking me for over 10 years, you're one sick SOB. This is where Gestapo tactics become reality.
And Walt says I'm wrong for posting Bessler's secret. Gotta love the US.
If things work out for me Walt, I will move to another country. The US has you and Alan.
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Nothing personal Alan. Words can mean anything. They have no real value. Plenty of guys like young boys. The Boys Club of America started in Louisville, Ky. Some guy liked young boys and taught them skills. He gave up a lot of his time to create the Boy Scouts of America. He liked young boys and today he's famous because of it.
They also ask for mommy and daddy's phone numbers. So you see Alan, when a grown man likes young boys, it's all perfectly harmless. That's how young boys become men.
This is why you're friends should quit attacking me. I can play with words too, sweetums 😉
If you don't get it. Play time is over. You're posts are still there. And if you want, I'll play with words. You do want me to please you. What does that mean? What would satisfy you? Roasting on a spit? You have to say when making such requests.
And I think my build works, people will believe me.
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P-Motion wrote:This is an idea of mine that I spent the 90's working on.
I gave it up when I was in a severe accident.
The idea is if an arm can retard its' motion, then the next weight will have greater potential than the top weight.
If it can be retarded 30 degrees, then the next weight would have a 2:1 force ratio with the top weight. And then when the wheel spins at (as an example) 20 degrees from being parallel to the ground, the weight that was at rest would move forward by gravity. It would be able to rotate downward at 30 degrees so it would advance while the wheel spins in the same direction.
Also, when the "down" weight is at rest, it creates an axis for the body to spin on. This requires that the outter lower edge be modified to allow for the wheel to spin without the outside edge touching the ground until desired.
Even if it retarded less than 30 degrees, it may be possible that it can retard enough to let the next weight increase the rate of spin.
This is basically an advanced design because the math functions on different levels simultaneously.

I was thinking about this. Without having considered this it's possible I wouldn't understand the value of Pi/2 >1.
It's an example of how linear momentum is conserved as angular momentum. Yet this old thread was being used to attack me because I'm not AB Hammer's boy toy. Check out when I posted this because the idea originated in the early 1990's.
Alan, hey sexy thing you. Still want me in your shop?

I checked Ya'all, Walt went back to 2007. He sure must hate foreigners. Just showing how much he hates socialists (Norwegians) in America.
He forgot to comment on my idea which helped me to understand Bessler's wheel. Now if only I could afford surgery. Have insurance but doctors make money for treatment and not cure. Capitalism.
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https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2180


This is what would have allowed me to realize Bessler's wheel. I've been steadily attacked since 2007. Yet no one in here over the last 12 years can show 1 build. The insults are there. Bessler's wheel is a joke. This forum is proof of that. Not 1 build. They are proud of their record. They're not stupid enough to build. The last 12 years shows building is a joke.
I am glad that AB Hammer's friend brought this to my attention.
This forum openly discourages trying. It is an American forum. It's great. It really is, it's American. We are that good. Build? That's for migrants.
If you don't live in the US, migrants do the heavy lifting. 2 out of 3 people in undergraduate programs in science, technology, engineering and mathematics is a migrant worker. Yep, the brain power that keeps America running is from migrant workers.
Kind of why Americans don't need to know math.

Isn't it funny that the most credible people in a perpetual motion forum have no work of their own to show. I know. They have an opinion not worth the work/effort to try it. But if they did, you know they'd try it......



....... one day, maybe.
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Mr. Nøweenie wrote:This is scary. You're going back over 15 years to attack me?
The police will wonder about this. I have no choice now. I do think you and Alan mean to cause me harm. I can't believe anything else. The police will be notified.
Believe this, Mr. Nøweenie. For starters it documents The Grudge you've been carrying and how long you've been holding it against Alan. And at least one time you and Alan both agreed, that your account should be deleted. But then when you agree you say something like this:
That is an interesting thing Walt, AB Hammer wanted all of my work, posts, builds, etc. to be deleted. And what am I doing? Making the mistake of showing my work.
and try to draw an analogy between Alan and Hitler. Then blame your reasoning on Ovey.

You sure are one piece. I suggest you report me to the FBI. That way your personal information will be on file. That will make it easier for the Federal Marshals to find you, whatever Park you're living in.
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People who don't build should just shut up. In 12 years I've been the only person in this forum willing to build anything. People who don't build have no clue.
As I said, no native English speaking person is willing to build. That's reality. When you or AB Hammer have something to say, post a build.
Call me a liar. Only 3 people in here are posting builds and none started talking in the Great USA first. It's not personal, just stating a fact. Aalesund, Norway isn't in the US. It's not even an English speaking country. Americans do hate it.
Who should I support? Those who say "We hate" or the ones they hate?

It is strange. The only person being attacked is someone that is 1/2 American and living in the US. Kunster and Visitor aren't being attacked by Americans. And no true American is or has built something in the last 10 years. But the Americans are quite vocal about what they're not doing.
You see Walt, you and Alan have made this a Hate Crime. The police will find it odd that no real Americans are building anything yet are attacking the builder who is not a real American that lives in the US.
It's a Hate Crime and since Scott Ellis, an American owns this forum, it's his problem too.
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