Inside Bessler’s Wheel by Trevor Lyn Whatford

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi all,

Inside Bessler’s Wheel by Trevor Lyn Whatford

This is why I think this may have been how Besslers Wheel was constructed, one, it had to be simple, two, it had to work in both direction and this is the best clue, three, this lever option does not suffer from advance and retard as I call it, wherein you end up with more weights on the ascending side that kills your advantage of the weight shift on the descending side and puts the wheel into balance! Four, it had eight knocks on the descending side.

How it works first it needs a very hearty push to give it the flywheel effect and to start the paddle wheel operated weight shift then gravity takes over and off it goes, The paddle wheel moves faster than the main wheel because of the gearing connection between the two wheels, this gearing ratio can be sequence timed to act on the pivoting levers at the correct time, the paddles are springs that bend on impact with the cylinder weighted levers then they push the levers at the same time the spring springs back throwing the levers forward like a sling shot, once in position the levers are held there by the ratchet gear until geometry resets them.

For duel direction wheels disconnect the ratchet gear and it should work in ether direction but not as well as the ratchet option, why Bessler needed this duel function is beyond me as he had good working knowledge of reverse gearing? With positive drive from gravity the chaos is greatly reduced as the levers are pulled up and down, I think that because this lever option has only been viewed by me in slowing down mode is why it appeared to be so chaotic and ignored for so long, until now.

I am sorry but I cannot get the drawing to post, its on page 3 at www.real-free-energy.co.uk
Figure 1
Parts, ratchet pivoting weights, driven by the spring paddled wheel mounted on a counterbalance weight, A main wheel gear fixed to the axle that drives the paddle wheel via gearing. Improvements to be made, mount a larger paddle wheel off bearings off the axle as well
as the counterweight using a shorter counterweight with the gearing mounted below the axle, add a flywheel to the paddle wheel, then extend the levers.

Why Bessler took his secret to his grave.

I believe this is why Besslers kept his secret, Besslers wheel is not very powerful and would rely on the flywheel effect and good RPM which means there is a limit to how big you can make it as size will reduce the RPM , I believe that with the invention of steam power and the fact that Bessler new his wheel was feeble meant he could not market it (Newcomen’s was marketing his invention the steam engine so why could not Bessler market his) the answer is it worked but it was feeble, so instead of marketing it and being scorned he held out for one big payoff, as a handsome payoff would offset the scorn and set him up for life, as his wheel worked there would be no comeback so why not offer your head if it works, then take the money and run so to speak.

With that said I believe if Bessler had been paid off who knows what he would have invented, as he was a thinking man and he could have perfected the use of gravity and a lot more with funding, I believe he would not of stop building things as it was in his nature. Then you have Newton who was well funded and people sending information from around the world, a bit of an advantage but still he got his main theory wrong, when you take away what was already known at the time he did not achieve that much, as most of his work was formulating Known information and works with his spin on them. Why would Newton give Bessler any credit when it would blow away is best theory, it was in Newton’s own interest to dismiss Bessler’s Wheel.

Which brings me back to Bessler who could have advanced physic better than them all just by showing his wheel even if it was feeble, think how people would have viewed gravity from that point on, you fool Bessler, you could have been one of the best.

I now find my self in a similar situation as Bessler with my invention the Multi Lever Phenomenon which is far superior to bessler’s wheel because it is low RPM with good torque and can do very good work, but the down side is that it is costly to build, at to days energy prices that is. Just like Bessler no one will believe me as it contravenes physics teaching not physics just the way physic is taught, I have shown mine though, as I try to learn from other peoples mistakes as well as my own.

Edit I need no help or funding with any of my invention as I can do it all by myself, this will make it even more rewarding, Asking for help no matter how reasonable just give people to stick to hit you with so I am taking away the stick!

PS I now have 16 secondhand ratchet gear and a lot off metal left over from other build so I am now back in business!

[ovyyus]

...two, it had to work in both direction...

Bessler's first two wheels turned in one direction only.

[jim_mich]

Finally found the page 3 with Figure 1. The image is too big, it exceeds the size limits for this forum.

I shrunk it and uploaded it.

Now I'll read your post while looking at figure 1.

(Edit: There are two figure 1's on page three. That is very confusing. I'll shrink the second one and re-upload it)

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi jim,

Thank you for posting the drawing for me.

I am sorry that my web site is in such a mess but it is add on after add on,

With thanks Trevor,

[jim_mich]

Is this just a variation of MT13?

[DrWhat]

Trevor you are very inventive and I like what you have done.

As always the only way to know for sure is to build them. There is no other way!

Damian

[laikkis]

Yes ther is another way . Calculator :-D

[KAS]

This concept reminds me of one of my old designs.

I always thought that it would never ba able to overcome the friction though.

Kas

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi kas and Jim,

What my design has going for it is good velocity of the prime mover paddle wheel good shock absorbing of the paddle and they channel that energy back into the system, it is a good lever layout for balance, it is easy to rotate if you can reduce the chaos, it only needs a very little out of balance weight to get it moving and once in motion it would run at a good RPM which will reduce the chaos because of the pull on the levers and ratchets, so the very little weight imbalance with velocity (RPM) can do useful work.

It is not how I would build it as I can make it a bit more simple, it is how I beleive Bessler may have built it to hide the workings!

[nicbordeaux]

So Trevor, am I right in deducing from info posted here that your wheel is now being built by somebody and we shall soon know whether it actually works, or whether it's a good idea on paper which for various pesky physical realworld reasons doesn't work as planned, eg things do not flip over or whatever at "proper" moment ?

Best

Nic 'moneytimetime" bordeaux

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi DrWhat,

very very true!

this the only out of balance wheel that I would build outside of the stuff on my web site that is.

I gave up on it before because of its little out of balance and I had moved to balance multi levers, tapping Leverage, but then I found the MT drawings and Ralph Lortie convinced me that bessler was genuine, so I thought lets have a look and I sore the prime mover that would be balanced and how to use it on MT13, and MT23 I already new of the lever system so that's how I think Bessler did it!

I will build my multi lever wheel first though as I think it scales up better and has good torque and with gearing that can free wheel it may have good RPM as well.

Regards Trevor

[AB Hammer]

Trevor

Preston and I have a joint design project, that falls in a similar concept of what you are showing. But it goes to a whole new level and control. Control is the key to the ratchet weights.

Alan

[DrWhat]

Trevor, why then use a counterweight/pendulum and the paddle wheel. Why not just fix the "counterweight/pendulum device" outside the wheel so that it wont swing, because if it swings you will lose synchrony so an external fixed device would be better.

PS KAS, I don't see how your design is similar? But nice work regardless.

[wheelrite]

Kas, maybe the cloth 'weight' Bessler showed was in fact a roller to reduce friction as much as possible? presenting them as the weights would be a good misdirection, and maybe the cloth and not allowing the ends to be seen or felt, is because it was through bored lengthwise and this may have given the game away?
If so what were the real weights like? pendulum weights?
Just a thought..
regards
Jon

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi DrWhat,

The whole point of figure 1 was to build it as bessler would have!

The counter weight would be heavy enough not to move much so it is not a pendulum,

I will build it open face with the gearing plate mounted externally for one reason only, that is because I already have a frame and a open face eight spoke wheel mounted on a hub so I only need to weld a cog on it and mount the levers I have the ratchet cogs and the wheel gearing what I do not have is time as my job is install machine and production lines all over the world and the UK so I am not home much.. I am glad you are getting your head into it though as I could have quite easily have missed that so thank for that.

My preferred wheel would have the wheel rotating on bearings of a static shaft fixed to the frame then I would weld the gearing and paddle wheel plate onto this shaft so then I can add another 4 sets of eight levers with another 4 paddle wheels to make a 5 set wheel all staggered, that would be 40 levers, but why stop there?

There is not much swing on the levers as the ratchets and the pull of the wheel stop most of this and if the swing or centrifugal forces where problematic then I would simply put a guide on the out side of the ascending side to check them both.

There is a lot more going on with the paddle wheel arrangement than is first viewed, this is why a think this wheel is a runner.

Thank for your interest, Regards Trevor