A 100 % Gravity Wheel concept

[raj]

I am toiling with a new gravity wheel concept for some time now. I thought its about time that I shared my concept with you all on this forum, with the hope of having your reactions.

The drawings below are self-explatory.
But I am giving some relevant details, that will help you understand my new gravity wheel concept:

1. A U-shaped axle (1) is fixed rigidly on structure/stand (2)
2. A cylindrical drum wheel (3) is mounted on extreme ends of U-shaped axle.
3. A smaller wheel (5) with radially fixed rigid arms (6) at 45 degrees interval starting from the 12 o'clock position, is mounted on lower part of U-shaped axle inside the cylindrical drum wheel.
4.The smaller wheel (5) is geared to broken inner rim of cylindrical drum wheel, by strings (7), so that they rotate/turn at the same speed/rate.
5. Weights (9) hang/swing on fixed points at 45 degrees interval, starting from the 12 o'clock position, on the inside of the outer rim of the cylindrical drum wheel, on the descending side of the wheels and roll/rest on arms (6) on the ascending side of the wheels.
6. Given a strong push or pull the weights change orbits as the wheels turn and provide net positive torque on the descending side of the wheels which continuously stay overbalanced and continue turning.
At least this is what looks likely to happen.

Now, that I have shared my new gravity wheel concept with you, let us have your reactions.

I thank Stewart for his encouragement in my last post/topic.
Regards.
Raj

[raj]

Sorry!
Here are the drawings

[raj]

Having too much trouble posting drawings!

[AB Hammer]

raj

Thanks for posting. I do see some concerns with this design. The timing needed and counter torque caused. making the wheels fight against each other. Meaning the inner wheel will want to go one way while the outer wheel will want to go the other. But it does give you a bases to work from. IMHO

[Tarsier79]

Gday RaJ

Thanks for posting your design!

As it is drawn, you may have some problems with release at 12:00, you also have two weights on the right in a work position, lifting 3 around the smaller wheel.

I don't think this one is a runner, but keep on trying.

Cheers

Kaine

[triplock]

Raj,

I have spent many a pleasant sunday afternoon messing about with strung masses which attempt to transfer their weight between a reduced radial position and the outer wheel during rotation. Whether it be thru double stringing or scoop arms like yours, the damn thing keeled each and every time. Although your concept is very clever, there's just not enough meat to the right to act as the driver.

Again though, credit for posting mate.

Chris

[satanspawn]

Raj - you remind me a lot of myself many years ago. I had a lot of great ideas - I was SURE they would work. The human mind is a beautiful thing - it is ideas that push us forward. Keep coming up with ideas. I try to do the same. Someday there will be an idea so incredibly simple but so perfect that it will change the entire world as we know it. As Dawkins said - after that happens: "We will wonder how we had never thought of it before........."

[raj]

I thank you all gratefully for your kind response.

I have the pleasure to show you below, a theoritical concept testing drawing, I had done well before posting this topic, which try to show the path of one weight doing a 11.25 degrees turn clockwise, through one complete revolution of the wheels.

From this I have calculated the clockwise and counterclockwise torque this one weight exerts on the wheels, by measuring its horizontal distance from the axial vertical line.

I found the set of the eight combined weights in my original first drawings exert a net positive clockwise torque continuously in the 2% to 12 % range, ignoring friction.

Do you think that this kind of theoritical test says something?
I await your advice.
Thanks.
Raj

[LustInBlack]

Rotate 5 degrees and recompute, Iterate. You'll find an answer.

[raj]

Hello LustInBlack.

I followed your kind advice.

I rotated my drawings ONE degree at a time through 45 degrees, recomputed the counter-clockwise torque by the weights on the arms of the mall inner wheel and the clockwise torque by the weights hanging/swinging on the strings attached on the outer rim of the large cylindrical wheel, AND GUESS what, there is a continuous net positive clockwise torque in the range of 2% and 12% (ignoring friction) throughout the 45 degrees rotation when the wheels reset their starting positions.

This is plain rubbish. This should not/ could not be correct. The drawings or the computed torques or I must have gone bonkers.

Raj

[raj]

Just because this Gravity Wheel concept, its drawings, its theoritical concept testing results look so absolutely absurd and ridiculous, that I decided to apply for a patent (Patent Application No. GB1013779.2), only to put it on official record, as another unworkable device.

It was nice sharing this concept with you.

Raj

[raj]

Hello everybody.

Can you really see the absurdity and oddity in my 100 % Gravity Wheel concept?

Can you see the two geared/combined wheels, with weights on arms of one inner wheel causing counter-clockwise torque to fight with weights hanging/swinging causing clockwise torque on the outer rim of the larger wheel.

The absurdity and oddity of the concept can be better visualised if we represent the two geared/combined wheels with two geared/combined
see-saws. The two see-saws will act as one, and the torques caused by resting/ hanging can be so easily worked out.

Please analyse the drawing below and let us know what you make of it, with regards to my gravity wheel concept.

Raj

[raj]

Hello forum members.

While reading this forum this morning, I came across references to several MTs.

While checking these MTs, GUESS WHAT I found:
Absolutely absurd...MT21... SEE drawing below.
Drop the inner wheel with radial arms in MT21 horizontally a bit lower and let the weights hang/swing on strings, AND you get my 100 % Gravity Wheel concept, duplicated... See drawing below.

Just because I keep calling my concept absurd and odd, don't you all go believing it.

Now that my concept is CLOSE to Bessler's MT 21, can we have any commetnts.

Regards.
Raj

[raj]

Hello forum members.

While reading this forum this morning, I came across references to several MTs.

While checking these MTs, GUESS WHAT I found:
Absolutely absurd...MT21... SEE drawing below.
Drop the inner wheel with radial arms in MT21 horizontally a bit lower and let the weights hang/swing on strings, AND you get my 100 % Gravity Wheel concept, duplicated... See drawing below.

Just because I keep calling my concept absurd and odd, don't you all go believing it.

Now that my concept is CLOSE to Bessler's MT 21, can we have any commetnts.

Regards.
Raj

[raj]

THE drawings