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The attached picture shows the basic mechanics that allowed Johann Bessler's wheel to work.
When the weight lever is acted upon by gravity, it pushes the curved board against the outer fixed position curved board.
When it does this, because it has a board that is over the curved moveable board following it, both boards are pushed outward.
This causes water in a tube between the 2 boards to be pumped upwards. Simple hydraulics.
And when the wheel rotates and the weight lever moves to the opposing side of the wheel, the weighted lever falls inward. By using a scissored attachment, it can place it's force on the board following it and create a seal. This seal would keep water from collecting on the wrong side of the wheel which would happen without it.
So simple, a child could figure it out. By the way, the black line from one curved board to another represents how the mechanism can be independent yet affect both boards at the same time. Kind of like independent suspension in a Corvette :-)
There are enineering guidelines to be followed to allow it to rotate quickly. But I am sure this is already known as there are many experts :-)
Their years of futility are a testament to what they know :-)

edited to add; Bessler did say it would take a good carpenter to build his wheel. And I have not heard of children who were good carpenters ? Sommething to think about.
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To discuss the genius of Bessler, consider the Fibonacci Sequence that he referenced.
In his design, what this allows is for a continuous force between levers to be applied to the moveable curved boards. This means that 2 weighted levers could be acting on the same curved board. Because of their differing positions, the amount of force the exert on a curved moveable board would not be the same. But as the wheel rotates, the force potntial would be amazing. That is, if you like engineering. If you don;t, it would only be a curious thing you see.
It is possible that the force applied to the moveable boards would remain fairly constant.
If so, then it is something that even today has not been thought of.
Thankfully we have modern electronics such as computers and their programs :-)
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Hello P-Motion/Jim and now, to.late.

I like the "to.late" name. Good luck with this concept. But only a build will prove it.

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to.late , you say bessler wheel solved , does that mean you have built what you are posting here , and it works ?
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I'm so glad it's finally been solved. What a relief...
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Hi To. late,

So you have to bend a board and compress fluid to a good height as well, is that not doing twice the work, when a soft reservoir could be compressed with a flat board and latch. there is potential in the design principle but not if you have to bend a board against fluid as well.

Take a look at the MT drawings and you will see your To. late : )

Sorry about the pun, regards Trevor

Edit, Sorry my miss understanding the board is curved to start with! the pun still stands though.
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The pun would have been better if the OP's handle had been Too Late rather than To Late.

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Not to mention the amount of time it would take for that water to be
pumped.Just doesn't seem plausible to gain any speed.But thank you
for sharing and posting your idea.
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Jim, How long will it take you to attack those that disagree with you in this thread?

Bessler's wheel may be solved...... but this is not it!!!!!!!
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@All,
This posting was merley a formality.
When the principle is demonstrated to work, no one associated with this forum can make such claim as understanding Bessler's work, let alone being an expert.



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Hi to late,

I am no expert but I have done very many experiments in this field, take a look at,

www.real-free-energy.co.uk

there is potential there but the force required to push the fluid up is about 16 kg of force to raise 1kg of fluid 2 metres, ( that is for a slow transfer ) the only way to do what you propose is to use multi levers (more than one lever per reservoir) and modern hydraulic and modern control systems.

I hope this is a help to you as yes I think it can work, but is not economical to build at to day energy prices.

I know some members take offence at people joining the forum thinking they know the answer to Bessler's wheel, as I have been red flagged more than once, but once you settle in it not a bad place to be, so welcome to the forum.

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to.late wrote:@All,
This posting was merley a formality.
When the principle is demonstrated to work, no one associated with this forum can make such claim as understanding Bessler's work, let alone being an expert.
If the principle is demonstrated to work I'm sure that most members will be delighted. I certainly will. Image
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Happy to see this thread moved here.
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justsomeone wrote:Happy to see this thread moved here.
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That is certainly a good way to keep the main forums from being cluttered up with possible trolling whilst allowing the poster to defend his views if he is sincere.

Well done moderator.
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