"Greed is an evil root"- do not chase optimal performance/
take small steps
"An anvil receives many blows"- light impact/multiple points of impact (driving the 90 degree angle)
"A large herd of fat, lazy, plump horses wanders aimlessly"- referring to weights having to be compact and their movement controlled (distance of travel)
"Children play among the pillars with loud heavy clubs"-
the inexperienced use force
"Acrobats and shadow boxers are as swift and nimble as the wind"-
opposite of the children/speed over power?
"The cunning cat slinks quietly along and snatches juicy mice...dog creeps out of his kennel just as far as his chain will stretch"-
dog/cat/mouse= the sequence/size of the weights, also again referring to controlled movement/travel restraint (possibly in the form of springs)
"it turns to the right and to the left"- (depends on which side your looking from....hahah)
...too lazy to write the rest
My interpretation of Apologia Poetica
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I have a slightly different interpretation/guess:
"Greed is an evil root"- a good warning to any free energy inventor, but also I suspect this alludes to the idea of milking a small amount of surplus energy from a larger balanced system. Seeking maximum velocity or maximum torque can be self defeating. My believe that Force x Time must be prolonged during fall and reduced during rise means that we have to minimise Velocity during fall, rather than maximise it.
"An anvil receives many blows"- I believe momentum transfer between two different inertia frames is necessary to the principle.
"A large herd of fat, lazy, plump horses wanders aimlessly"- if we have a system whereby weights rise very fast but fall very slow, this implies a "reservoir" or "holding pen" for these energy-rich weights which I imagine would roll around waiting their turn to descend. A Time imbalance between rise and fall requires this.
"Children play among the pillars with loud heavy clubs"- the pillars I believe are the pillars of the wheel. Children implies a secondary or parent/child relationship. Loud implies noise - perhaps from impact. Heavy implies high mass. I imagine heavy weights swinging between the pillars - transfering their momentum to the faster 'acrobats'
"Acrobats and shadow boxers are as swift and nimble as the wind"- I see these as light & fast - a different inertial frame from the heavy & slow components
"The cunning cat slinks quietly along and snatches juicy mice...dog creeps out of his kennel just as far as his chain will stretch"-
dog/cat/mouse= the sequence/size of the weights seems reasonable. I suspect the dog on a leash implies tethers - i'm very interested in Pequaide's tether or yo-yo method of transfering & conserving Momentum between heavy & light masses ... I believe there is a big secret in this method
"it turns to the right and to the left"- maybe just a reference to the bi-directional nature of the wheel. I think Bessler was proud of this achievement, but it may simply have been be back-to-back unidirectional wheels - it seems this was a necessary complication to remove suspicion of wound up spring power, and probably served to make it harder to guess at the mechanism.
...too lazy to write the rest - I know the feeling. I think the references to Mars, Jupiter & Saturn are interesting - I think this may have been an insight into gravity power, and the same with the poltergeist reference. The inflow of energy is invisible - but I have suspect that gravity is the unseen provider of Force for Acceleration - and that we are just diverting that Force away from stressing the Earth for a while ...
The anatomical references are, I believe, a reference to a particular Holy Bible scripture that basically implies the modern concept of Synergy. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. The parts are interconnected in a way that makes it all work.
"Greed is an evil root"- a good warning to any free energy inventor, but also I suspect this alludes to the idea of milking a small amount of surplus energy from a larger balanced system. Seeking maximum velocity or maximum torque can be self defeating. My believe that Force x Time must be prolonged during fall and reduced during rise means that we have to minimise Velocity during fall, rather than maximise it.
"An anvil receives many blows"- I believe momentum transfer between two different inertia frames is necessary to the principle.
"A large herd of fat, lazy, plump horses wanders aimlessly"- if we have a system whereby weights rise very fast but fall very slow, this implies a "reservoir" or "holding pen" for these energy-rich weights which I imagine would roll around waiting their turn to descend. A Time imbalance between rise and fall requires this.
"Children play among the pillars with loud heavy clubs"- the pillars I believe are the pillars of the wheel. Children implies a secondary or parent/child relationship. Loud implies noise - perhaps from impact. Heavy implies high mass. I imagine heavy weights swinging between the pillars - transfering their momentum to the faster 'acrobats'
"Acrobats and shadow boxers are as swift and nimble as the wind"- I see these as light & fast - a different inertial frame from the heavy & slow components
"The cunning cat slinks quietly along and snatches juicy mice...dog creeps out of his kennel just as far as his chain will stretch"-
dog/cat/mouse= the sequence/size of the weights seems reasonable. I suspect the dog on a leash implies tethers - i'm very interested in Pequaide's tether or yo-yo method of transfering & conserving Momentum between heavy & light masses ... I believe there is a big secret in this method
"it turns to the right and to the left"- maybe just a reference to the bi-directional nature of the wheel. I think Bessler was proud of this achievement, but it may simply have been be back-to-back unidirectional wheels - it seems this was a necessary complication to remove suspicion of wound up spring power, and probably served to make it harder to guess at the mechanism.
...too lazy to write the rest - I know the feeling. I think the references to Mars, Jupiter & Saturn are interesting - I think this may have been an insight into gravity power, and the same with the poltergeist reference. The inflow of energy is invisible - but I have suspect that gravity is the unseen provider of Force for Acceleration - and that we are just diverting that Force away from stressing the Earth for a while ...
The anatomical references are, I believe, a reference to a particular Holy Bible scripture that basically implies the modern concept of Synergy. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. The parts are interconnected in a way that makes it all work.
re: My interpretation of Apologia Poetica
Hello Greendoor,
I think in many regards we are on the same page, sometime over the next couple of days I will disclose pics of my first prototype. I hope that I am not ridiculed for my choice of materials and its simplicity.
While others are building elaborate contraptions with finely calculated measurements and precision movement, I am using the cheapest material and a home made ruler/protractor (because I work out in the bush and dont have access to all the supplies I would like). My initial wheels are designed to illustrate the movement, and to be easily interchanged in order to try many different concepts.
Please stay tuned
I think in many regards we are on the same page, sometime over the next couple of days I will disclose pics of my first prototype. I hope that I am not ridiculed for my choice of materials and its simplicity.
While others are building elaborate contraptions with finely calculated measurements and precision movement, I am using the cheapest material and a home made ruler/protractor (because I work out in the bush and dont have access to all the supplies I would like). My initial wheels are designed to illustrate the movement, and to be easily interchanged in order to try many different concepts.
Please stay tuned
HeathenForce- http://www.ultragod.com/
re: My interpretation of Apologia Poetica
......My boss just saw what I was working on, when I explained to him the Bessler mystery and my invention his response was;
"That is nut job shit"
LOL
"That is nut job shit"
LOL
HeathenForce- http://www.ultragod.com/
Re: My interpretation of Apologia Poetica
There's a y left out of your signature.nneba wrote:"Greed is an evil root"- do not chase optimal performance/
take small steps
"An anvil receives many blows"- light impact/multiple points of impact (driving the 90 degree angle)
"A large herd of fat, lazy, plump horses wanders aimlessly"- referring to weights having to be compact and their movement controlled (distance of travel)
"Children play among the pillars with loud heavy clubs"-
the inexperienced use force
"Acrobats and shadow boxers are as swift and nimble as the wind"-
opposite of the children/speed over power?
"The cunning cat slinks quietly along and snatches juicy mice...dog creeps out of his kennel just as far as his chain will stretch"-
dog/cat/mouse= the sequence/size of the weights, also again referring to controlled movement/travel restraint (possibly in the form of springs)
"it turns to the right and to the left"- (depends on which side your looking from....hahah)
...too lazy to write the rest
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re: My interpretation of Apologia Poetica
Dear greendoor,
But just my opinion...
IMHO it is not the pillars of the wheel, but some rods inside the wheel where the weights are jumping from one to another like the kids playing 'cat and mouse', exchanging their elevated position in a circular manner. The jacob ladder is in the same spirit (another way to suggest the same motion).greendoor wrote:Children play among the pillars with loud heavy clubs"- the pillars I believe are the pillars of the wheel
But just my opinion...
I cannot imagine why nobody though on this before, including myself? It is so simple!...
re: My interpretation of Apologia Poetica
Hello Path-Finder,
Indeed, I concur with that statement, in my particular wheel, I am using nuts which slide on coathangers, this analogy seems to apply to my theory.
I like your concept of weights jumping.
Say Greendoor/Pathfinder, does "Jonathan" come around much anymore? I was looking at some of his posts and he seems to have some great ideas, I would like to discuss with him.
nneba
Indeed, I concur with that statement, in my particular wheel, I am using nuts which slide on coathangers, this analogy seems to apply to my theory.
I like your concept of weights jumping.
Say Greendoor/Pathfinder, does "Jonathan" come around much anymore? I was looking at some of his posts and he seems to have some great ideas, I would like to discuss with him.
nneba
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I cannot imagine why nobody though on this before, including myself? It is so simple!...