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Dwylbtzle wrote:howbout:
turgid throbbing flibbertigibbet widget flipper
you know...as a motto

or:
superlative turgid throbbing flibbertigibbet widget flippers

(as opposed to inferior ones)

and, of course, eventually:
used turgid throbbing flibbertigibbet widget flippers
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.....in a single "key word" can be "wave". Take a look at :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_motor

So ,in my opinion ,we have a certain location of the frame...to imagine "something alike"/the gravity power collector : on seaside , not on riverside.

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here's a motto:

wheel you spin this thing for me?
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....can meet the well known quote of Archimedes , at :
http://www.richchristianpoorchristian.c ... er-of.html

If leverage , generally speaking , is "to take FULL advantage of an existing thing "( this time gravity unbalance...) , why not thinking about a "long enough arm...playing pulsatory (trebuchet) leverage"?

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i can answer that exactly--
WITH A GRAVALONE WHEEL you can never get the lever long enough
every time you lengthen the lever (the rim from the center) you increase the circumferential load
the longer the radius the longer the circumference
which makes everything harder to reset
and the bigger the gravity bang from the trebuchet the more of a bitch it is to lift and reset again

yes you can lift a four pound weight with a one pound weight with a long enough lever
and gears are compound levers and pulleys are linear levers and wheels are circular levers and pumps are liquid levers

and THAT's what drives everyone crazy frying their brains trying to get the wheel to spin from gravity alone
thinking of THAT
so that's the reason, if not the excuse, for it

but the more you leverage yourself--the more you have to reset or lift or unwind or rewind or flip or whatever
levers are magic hammers and when that's all you got everything starts looking like a magic nail
gravity-alone flibbertiggibit widget flippers do not and can not and never will work
period
you have to add something
otherwise you are just creating more and more complicated ways to fight gravity in order to use it
or use it to fight it
deeper and deeper layers of hell for the self damned widget flipper maker to crawl down into
oh nobly born go towards the light
use it to fight it?
fight it to use it?
lift it to drop it?
drop it to lift it?--in which order?
spin it to sparkle it?
how about kick it so it can bite me, siblings
just kick it regardless--give up the grimey gravalone
hypnotized by a shiny spinning object
for shame
all alone grovelling in the gravel before the graven gravalone--
ohhh no
are we not men?
take no thought for the order of your going from this error
for God's sake just go
leave it-look elsewhere
oh it IS there-(a gravity engine is possible--imho)
just not THERE
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look deep
peel the onion and weep

more possible mottos:
pinwheels be my eyes
spun: for friends, influence, and fun
with a weird enough lever i could move my bowels
how i spint my life
my erstwhile sordid mispint youth
spinster of cobwebs/spindle of gimbals
maybe it spins like this:

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(but you prob'ly have to untie the knot)
:{/
i was a spin doctor for the illuminati (and possibly a quack)
alchemy got me hung (like a horse--just 9.95 a bottle!)
oh, i'm sorry, my bad, i thought you said turn lead into mold
BIG GIANT SPRING NOT INCLUDED

(my personal all time favorite)
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.....as a short movie , at : www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwPc0kK9VHU

.....but think to "accumulate" the apple's accelerated falling motion ,not as a hit , but bit by bit (gradually...)

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.....or the real "Best Idea Ever",was stated so long time ago : "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it , and I shall move the world" (Archimedes ).

http://usingit.files.wordpress.com/2008 ... imedes.gif

If the heavy point is coincident with the fulcrum point , it's so easy to move(rotate...) the things.

For a "self" continuous motion (due to inertia and gravity) ,we need no more than "a torque difference small enough..." (on the same side of the fulcrum ) and as much as is needed a long arm.

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.....can be simply "keep on running gravity (un)balance".

The starting point is the so old balance (weighing simple machine):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Weigh ... heart3.jpg

If you have a balance,you must unbalance it (in some manner...) and find a way of self-motion due to gravity fall and inertia.

The natural model , at : www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBANgbRkws

A small size "copy" of it (...but with a simple "cut" of the design!!! ) , at :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upp-Xr5JAg0

So , welcome PM ! ?

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.....in a common language : "don't miss and use the accelera(ted)tion"...( fall,motion,velocity,momentum ).
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.....with minimum words...so , an animation at :
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit#/i ... Orbit2.gif
It's about two bodies of different mass orbiting a common barycenter.
Now , how about "...orbiting a common fulcrum , with the barycenter's trajectory , on the same side ( semi-space) of the fulcrum ?!".
If we play variable/oscillatory leverage...can we obtain a continuous unbalance in a gravity field ?!.
The lever ("rotating "seesaw"...) can play with a single variable arm...
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.....this time as a "modified" Atwood machine , playing variable / oscillatory leverage ( gravity unbalance...as continuous incoming "waves" at a cosmic " shore " ).
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.....this time as a continuous unbalanced (swinging or rotating) "modified " weighting scale (variable/oscillatory leverage ) , starting with :
www.isasc.org/Tutorial/Scale-Types.html
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I must say that this particular thread is one of the more interesting I've ever come-across.

Just thought I'd add that "for the record."

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motto (n.) a phrase chosen as expressive of the goals of a group

Gravity Motor, the rotational energy extractor in the gravity well.
"Orffyreus commented that when the secret is revealed, he is afraid that people will complain that the idea is so simple it is not worth the asking price."
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