New Patent law discussion thread

[justsomeone]

Your thoughts please.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/smallbusi ... 50437356/1

[justsomeone]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy-Smit ... nvents_Act

[justsomeone]

First to file? How do you protect your idea from theft?

[jim_mich]

How do you protect your idea from theft?

Work on it only in a building with no windows and no lights? (Keep it in the dark.)

[nicbordeaux]

First to patent will never stand up in a sensible court of law. Any big company patenting the invention of some poor guy who can prove he was the inventor, or can scream loud enough with reasonable proof will get so much bad publicity that it's stock will be valueless. It's name will be smeared for ever. Consumers will boycott it.

[AB Hammer]

Your thoughts please.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/smallbusi ... 50437356/1

Looks like a finagle of law for those with money to take what is out there open sourced, to get control of it.

[jim_mich]

If an idea is open sourced. then it is public knowledge and thus not patentable. The "first to file" will take effect in about 18 months.

The new law says that the invention cannot be derived from someone else. You (or the company that you work for) must be the inventor. You cannot 'steal' an invention. But if two people work independently and come up with a same idea, then the person or company that files first gets the patent.

[justsomeone]

Thanks Jim.

[Ealadha]

First to file? How do you protect your idea from theft?

The way bessler did .

[AB Hammer]

Jim

Thank you for some clarification. I believe it would be good to download a full copy of it for our records.

[ovyyus]

But if two people work independently and come up with a same idea, then the person or company that files first gets the patent.

The first to go public will negate the other's ability to patent ;)

[Timothy]

justsomeone wrote:
First to file? How do you protect your idea from theft?

Ealadha:
The way bessler did.

What's the worst that can happen? Someone steals your design, patents it, and gets rich. The world gets cheap energy whether you or someone else holds the patent.

The Bessler way is the way of selfishness. And is the world better for it?

Maybe I'm just too old to contemplate fortune and glory. (But I would like a nice set of teeth.) :)

[Grimer]

justsomeone wrote:
First to file? How do you protect your idea from theft?

Ealadha:
The way bessler did.

What's the worst that can happen? Someone steals your design, patents it, and gets rich. The world gets cheap energy whether you or someone else holds the patent.

The Bessler way is the way of selfishness. And is the world better for it?

Maybe I'm just too old to contemplate fortune and glory. (But I would like a nice set of teeth.) :)

+1

[Ealadha]

If there was a patant law preventing people from patanting the bessler wheel . Thats is what is needed . So a perpetual motion wheel where weights are always falling and weights come to be placed together , one against another , thats already invented , 300 years ago .

[Ealadha]

Also the information on the bessler wheel is open source , so why the fcuk are certain people on this forum wanting to patant it .