What should someone do with a solution?
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What should someone do with a solution?
What should someone do once they have the solution?
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re: What should someone do with a solution?
Give it freely to the world.
But making sure to get recognition as the inventor.
This is what I would do.
Raj
But making sure to get recognition as the inventor.
This is what I would do.
Raj
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re: What should someone do with a solution?
. I can assure the reader that there is something special behind the stork's bills.
re: What should someone do with a solution?
Giving it away is like Tesla selling out to Edison, Westinghouse and JP Morgan.
Big corporations will find a way to patent it through paid lobbyists buying congressional favoritism to overlook your dominance.
Remember the new Patent Office regulations, stating that the first to apply for patent has priority whether the item in question has been free sourced or not. If you do not patent, they will and you have gained nothing for your fellow man.
You will be recognized, but you will go down in history as that crazy fool inventor who not only gave away a vast fortune, but created a monster causing the end consumer to pay more for green energy than they now pay for fossil, nuclear or hydro energy.
I ask that forum members participate by giving their input on this thread. I for one would like to see the consensus on patent verses free source, it rears its ugly head much to frequently on this forum.
Ralph
Big corporations will find a way to patent it through paid lobbyists buying congressional favoritism to overlook your dominance.
Remember the new Patent Office regulations, stating that the first to apply for patent has priority whether the item in question has been free sourced or not. If you do not patent, they will and you have gained nothing for your fellow man.
You will be recognized, but you will go down in history as that crazy fool inventor who not only gave away a vast fortune, but created a monster causing the end consumer to pay more for green energy than they now pay for fossil, nuclear or hydro energy.
I ask that forum members participate by giving their input on this thread. I for one would like to see the consensus on patent verses free source, it rears its ugly head much to frequently on this forum.
Ralph
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re: What should someone do with a solution?
I have decided to give it away.
re: What should someone do with a solution?
lol
Go Ken
Go Ken
re: What should someone do with a solution?
Then post it!I have decided to give it away.
re: What should someone do with a solution?
Ralph is right. Think of your family too. Get a patent after you get around to building your idea out and it works.
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re: What should someone do with a solution?
There are over 8,000,000 American patents. The exclusive rights held by the inventors to over 5,000,000 of them, have expired. More than 200 years, (1790 into 1995), of the inventive wealth of this and other countries is owned, free and clear by everyone.
To apply and receive a patent is to give it away; either now or twenty years from now, when the inventor's rights expire. If the American patent system had existed in Bessler's time and he had received such a patent on his wheel at the time, we woud all own it as our own right now.
If for no other reason to apply for a patent; do it because if granted, it will be published worldwide.
To apply and receive a patent is to give it away; either now or twenty years from now, when the inventor's rights expire. If the American patent system had existed in Bessler's time and he had received such a patent on his wheel at the time, we woud all own it as our own right now.
If for no other reason to apply for a patent; do it because if granted, it will be published worldwide.
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Why? Patents cost thousands of dollars and are subject to corporate law. Publishing worldwide via the internet costs nothing and is subject to nothing.Jim Williams wrote:If for no other reason to apply for a patent; do it because if granted, it will be published worldwide.
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I once would have argued apply for the patent because if granted and published; it would also be known to work, but jim_mich showed me that isn't always true.
Publish through receiving a patent, because no one is going to believe it anyway and at least serious consideration would be made of the claim.
I once would have argued apply for the patent because if granted and published; it would also be known to work, but jim_mich showed me that isn't always true.
Publish through receiving a patent, because no one is going to believe it anyway and at least serious consideration would be made of the claim.
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And as I understand the new patent rules, whoever gets to the patent office with it first will end up owning it. Then at seven years they must pay a fee to keep it in force for a total of twenty years.
Then by making improvements and applying some design modifications making it more efficient they can patent it again for another twenty year cycle. competitors are stuck to only mimic your expired patent and compete with your more efficient product.
Well over twenty years ago a company called Frigidaire invented the refrigerator. Now there are many brands that all carry a current patent number as they are improvements over the original. This to my knowledge applies to everything including Jim's 5,000,000 expired patents. But a wheelbarrow cannot be patented as it was never patented.
If you want to see how fast someone can get it patented simply post it here and on O-U
I personally believe I can rest assured that you at this point and time do not have a cost effective runner. so I ask; give what away?
Then by making improvements and applying some design modifications making it more efficient they can patent it again for another twenty year cycle. competitors are stuck to only mimic your expired patent and compete with your more efficient product.
Well over twenty years ago a company called Frigidaire invented the refrigerator. Now there are many brands that all carry a current patent number as they are improvements over the original. This to my knowledge applies to everything including Jim's 5,000,000 expired patents. But a wheelbarrow cannot be patented as it was never patented.
If you want to see how fast someone can get it patented simply post it here and on O-U
I personally believe I can rest assured that you at this point and time do not have a cost effective runner. so I ask; give what away?
re: What should someone do with a solution?
To the Newbies: Are you aware that there is a man noted on this forum who owns a viable Patent based on MT 137, and BesslerWheel.com is listed as reference on said patent.
re: What should someone do with a solution?
Jim, no other form of worldwide communication means can beat the internet in terms of sharing information freely and quickly.
re: What should someone do with a solution?
Ralph's right again. If it worked, you wouldn't feel the need to write about it so much. And Jim W is right- patent it, no one will believe it works from the drawing, so nobody will try to build it either.
And there's this. Whoever you show it to while it works, will seem to disappear and not contact you. While you sit and wonder, they are trying to find a way around the patent claims.
And there's this. Whoever you show it to while it works, will seem to disappear and not contact you. While you sit and wonder, they are trying to find a way around the patent claims.