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John Collins · Post by **John Collins** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:17 pm

Indeed he could Tarsier79!

JC

Tarsier79 · Post by **Tarsier79** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:22 am

Silver tiger, if your device is a cf powered device, I am not convinced it will work, but I would love to see your timing/ feedback mechanism.

Silvertiger · Post by **Silvertiger** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:58 pm

I'm so relieved that you're not convinced, since CF is not and never will be a source of power for anything. That would be like saying that a car with no fuel can get its power by rolling. CF is the resultant of a rotation. So how could one state that a device is powered by CF if a rotation must first be induced in order to produce the CF which powers the rotation in the first place? Wait...what was the first place? O.o Doesn't make much sense, now does it? If this reads strangely like a Sir Bedivere moment, then your eyes would not be lying...nuff said.

Fcdriver · Post by **Fcdriver** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:04 pm

If you understand that one lifts four, then any force in one direction, can be used to force movement in the other direction, right?

jim_mich · Post by **jim_mich** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:01 pm

One pound can't lift four. Such is an impossible feat. You would be a really great inventor if you could make one pound lift four. But if you don't yet know about such things, then you will search your whole life away and never find perpetual motion.

This is basically what Bessler told Wagner.

Fcdriver · Post by **Fcdriver** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:58 am

One lb lifts four is a rate of lift, or a amount of force, yes one does lift four! That's why it's taking so long!

Silvertiger · Post by **Silvertiger** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:48 am

Perhaps you could discuss that on a different thread... :)

Fcdriver · Post by **Fcdriver** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:31 pm

To make rotation do to cf it would be a timed event, the force would reach the outer diameter sooner or later

Silvertiger · Post by **Silvertiger** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:43 pm

O.o Looks like driver slipped in and changed the topic. I wish he would start his own thread... :(

Fcdriver · Post by **Fcdriver** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:04 pm

Silvertiger wrote:Perhaps you could discuss that on a different thread... :)

you are the one that brought up cf as a possible source of force

Silvertiger · Post by **Silvertiger** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:15 pm

Wow. O.O Well...I tried, guys.

MrVibrating · Post by **MrVibrating** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:51 pm

Sooo.. could we extrapolate your argument to exclude all inertial forces?

In which case i'm completely stumped. A placebo weight, that isn't a result of inertial or EM force... that uses oscillation of something important, and dampers for synchronisation, has only a few parts but is extremely awkward to implement, and can weigh anything or nothing.

All of its input energy comes from the rotation, despite the fact that the dampers obviously dissipate much of that energy away..

It's a good riddle alright.

Fcdriver · Post by **Fcdriver** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:30 am

Why would the tampers dissipate energy, do you have them hooked up wrong?

Tarsier79 · Post by **Tarsier79** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:00 am

Mr V. I assume he means all inertial, or didnt understand what I was trying to convey.

Fcdriver · Post by **Fcdriver** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:15 am

The tampers create energy, they only dissipate energy if you hook them up backwards

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