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Ohm's Law is misleading

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I've just realised Ohm's law is misleading and though no one will understand what the hell I'm on about I felt I had to publish it on some public forum or other. Since all Scott's forums will be picked over when Cloud demonstrates perpetual motion, this off-topic forum is probably one of the best places one can find. :-)

Just as in the case of the gas law one has to invert temperature to get hierarchical consistency and think in terms of its reciprocal which I have called compreture so also in the case of Ohms law one has to invert the concept of voltage, V. Let's use the symbol M

Ohm's law then becomes IRM = a constant

By choosing suitable scales for measurement we have IRM = 1 an expression of hierarchical conservation of mutually orthogonal flow.

I is the flow in the x direction
R is the flow in the y direction
M is the flow in the z direction

In March 2013 I wrote:
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The gas equation can be represented as

V•P•C = 1

Where V is volume, P is presure and the variable C is the inverse of temperature which I have named Compreture. Unlike Resistance which has a name for its inverse, Conductance, temperature doesn't have the equivalent - or if it has, I've never heard of it.

Since the Compreture scale unit is arbitrary and can be chosen to make the gas constant unity.
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Once one has grasped the hierarchical nature of all these variables one has to wonder why they have been missed for so long. When they have been sorted out they offer the prospect not only of harnessing the relatively weak gravitational field but more importantly harnessing the EM field, something Steorn have gallantly attempted without success for many years now.
As I've pointed out on Community Buzz hierarchical structuring can be extended to NG and EG which is a whole new ball game as Cloud has realised. It also means that EG must have two independent orthogonal components corresponding to the V and R of the Ohm's Law.
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I don't understand the half of it.

In units (if I'm correct)
U: [V] = [J / C] = [ N m / C] = [kg m^2 / (C s^2)] = [kg m^2 / (A * s^3)]
I: [A] = [C/S]
R: ... something with length of area

Isn't it 'better' to relate this to the Force of Gravity?
F=G*m1*m2/r^2
Where the constant G is in units: [ N m^2/ kg^2 ]

Or am I missing your poiint?

Perhaps usefull: Heat capacity [J/K] (joules per Kelvin)
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Or am I missing your poiint?
Yes. I'm afraid you are missing my point [with one i ;-) ].

But my object in posting was not to convince anyone since that would take far too long and stand little chance of success. My object was merely to post it for the record so that when CC has demonstrated PM people will then start to think differently about the basics.

One is reminded of the aphorism:

There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
Those who understand binary and those who don’t.

I realise that most members on this forum get that - but put yourself in the position of someone who has never heard of binary. In my childhood days that would be virtually everyone.
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The are also 10 other kinds of people...15 of them don't know hexadecimal....

So you
-post a half theory... (I really like halve baked brainstorms)
-'just for the record'... (eehm do you think you have officially claimed territory?)
-'just in case' someone else demonstrates PM... (so you don't believe in your own theory?)
-and you don't try to convince/prove anything... (You also leave that up to others?)

That's nasty! I clearly don't understand. .

At least post a link back to the mentioned thread.
(Luckily I found that EG is a special kind of gravity...?)
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Grimer wrote:I've just realised Ohm's law is misleading and though no one will understand what the hell I'm on about I felt I had to publish it on some public forum or other. Since all Scott's forums will be picked over when Cloud demonstrates perpetual motion, this off-topic forum is probably one of the best places one can find. :-)

Just as in the case of the gas law one has to invert temperature to get hierarchical consistency and think in terms of its reciprocal which I have called compreture so also in the case of Ohms law one has to invert the concept of voltage, V. Let's use the symbol M

Ohm's law then becomes IRM = a constant

By choosing suitable scales for measurement we have IRM = 1 an expression of hierarchical conservation of mutually orthogonal flow.

I is the flow in the x direction
R is the flow in the y direction
M is the flow in the z direction

In March 2013 I wrote:
...
The gas equation can be represented as

V•P•C = 1

Where V is volume, P is presure and the variable C is the inverse of temperature which I have named Compreture. Unlike Resistance which has a name for its inverse, Conductance, temperature doesn't have the equivalent - or if it has, I've never heard of it.

Since the Compreture scale unit is arbitrary and can be chosen to make the gas constant unity.
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Once one has grasped the hierarchical nature of all these variables one has to wonder why they have been missed for so long. When they have been sorted out they offer the prospect not only of harnessing the relatively weak gravitational field but more importantly harnessing the EM field, something Steorn have gallantly attempted without success for many years now.
As I've pointed out on Community Buzz hierarchical structuring can be extended to NG and EG which is a whole new ball game as Cloud has realised. It also means that EG must have two independent orthogonal components corresponding to the V and R of the Ohm's Law.
LOL. Of course.

There's the vectors, little v and little r of angular momentum. So little v maps to big V and little r maps to big R. How convenient. :-)
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As the individual hereby designated by Mr Grimer to demonstrate PM, I would appreciate it if someone would clue me in on exactly what the hell Mr Grimer is going on about.

Since we all know Frank is a very excitable boy and given to wild support of any new theory that comes along - RAR Energia was the last one that commanded his total faith and allegiance, we must forgive his comical extremes of enthusiasm I guess.

But I can assure that I am probably the last person that would claim PM without a working prototype or following full scientific protocol.

Claims of PM without a working prototype are best left to the mind melders, translation twisters and Harry Potter based physics experts of which the forum seems amply endowed.

I am simply devising experiments for my personal entertainment and education that would help either confirm or refute my own unproven pet theories on how a possible PM machine could be driven.

I have made no claims/promises of current or future PM and have no schedule to do so.

If experimental results are positive then it might lead to further development around the same theory or it could lead to yet another theory.

Seriously Frank, did you stop taking your meds?
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CloudCamper, nevertheless: Happy Huntings!

Grimer: Still trying to understand the basics (perhaps I shouldn't)
Ohm's law then becomes IRM = a constant

By choosing suitable scales for measurement we have IRM = 1 an expression of hierarchical conservation of mutually orthogonal flow.

I is the flow in the x direction
R is the flow in the y direction
M is the flow in the z direction
How would you accomplish this?

C[X,Y,Z] = f*[I,0,0] + g*[0,R,0] + h*[0,0,M];
|C| = e*I*R*M;
where e,f,g,h are 'suitable scales for measurement'.
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re: Ohm's Law is misleading

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AB, I Assure you that Grimer has plucked random letters from the darkest 9f places, and attached to them are formulas not seen before by any sane person.

I am an electronics technician. Ohms law and the power law are tested and confirmed with each new circuit design. When designing electronics you work backwards and inside out, assuming ohms law to be correct to obtain currents, resistor values power dissipation etc.

I also understand binary, oct and hex(to an extent). A binary input requires a certain impedance to allow a certain voltage which changes due to current flow i that resistive circuit. Ohms law rules electronics. Frank, any theory stati g otherwise is nonsense.
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I am an electronics technician.
Indeed you are. ;-)
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