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Hillary's lead is insurmountable. Her lead has increased rather than decreased closer to Nov. 8th. Especially after the Trump tapes were released. No one has ever come back from this far at this point. The fat lady is warming up in the wings.
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But can we believe all that is said from the media that is all leftist as the wiki leaks are proving now. Of course they won't talk about it, but only Fox news and radio. The only news that seems to be honest now days.
Keep the people ignorant and you can tell them what to do.
So the answer is just go vote and don't believe what you here without hard evidence. So go with the one that will help the country, no finish the job of destroying it.
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You might as well get used to it, God's favor is on Trump and nothing can stand in the way.
Democrats on the whole are anti-Christian humanists, that is why they will lose period!
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AB Hammer you are not alone in thinking Fox News is the only honest news station. But I think that's just because of your own bias towards your conservative views that you want to be main stream ideas, because I think a greater number of people exist that think Fox news is a right wing propaganda news network. I mean "Hannity"? That is not fair and balanced, not even close, and they even got rid of Holmes a long time ago, so it's like a debate show without the Democrat member of the debate now. Like a liberal bashing show only. I like the Kelly File but maybe I just think she is pretty. There is a lot of hot babes on Fox News. Wikki leaks is also not journalism.

Hillary Clinton is Christian. You should think about it when you make assumptions about where Jesus stands on the issues. If you look at his word, he cares about the poor, and he isn't a mainstream Jew either so when he made his new testament or covenant he replaced the old covenant which means most of your prejudices that existed in the old testament are no longer a part of it until he says so himself after his second coming. In the mean time you can assume that he likely loves all of those heathen atheists and homosexuals. The Pope forgave the atheists that are atheist because of their scientific views, and think Jesus would honor the Pope's decision because the Catholic church was founded by his apostles. Christians recently have been very Jew focused in their behavior on the Christian television networks. I've never seen more assumptions about prophecy than recently I think. That's a made up religion in itself and does not reflect every Christians viewpoint.
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I don't believe this! You guys take away my greenie when ever you disagree with what I say!
Mine was not viewpoint, there is only one way to interpret scripture and that is by the spirit.
If there are any true Christians here you would know what I mean.
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I didn't red you Trevor. I think what you mean by interpret scripture by the spirit is imaginative and therefore false. The scripture is written in language that you can understand and know the vocabulary to. You can take that and then logically organize the information and remove fallacies. If you're imagining whatever you want to believe, you're going to invent fallacies and then you will congregate together with other people with the same fallacies, causing the creation of a mental illness.
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I am sorry but you are oh so wrong and out of touch.
When you accept Christ through repentance he opens your spiritual eyes and you become born again, you now see clearly between right and wrong and he leads you into all righteousness.
You now are free from condemnation because he has taken your sin away.
You now have power to accomplish all things, even raise the dead.
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You don't suddenly become perfect and gain super powers by accepting Jesus. You need to be able to think about what you're doing and repent.
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Wrong again friend, it's not with the mind, it's with the heart.
Simply believe and it is free gift. Faith will open all the doors and you even move mountains.
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You should give value to your mind and your heart. You can just as easily believe what you're saying and what I'm saying in the contexts that allows it. By closing up your contexts you might as well be accepting another person's opinion rather than thinking critically. I think that sort of thing is why you would automatically gravitate to Republicans because you think that they are more Christian. It's obvious that Jesus is a Democrat. Because basically every Christian charity organization that is trying to live up to Jesus will is filling in where incompetent government is lacking, so they often serve the homeless and needy, people whom should already be being served well if society were healthy enough.
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Sorry Jesus was not a Democrat. With democracy its every man demanding his own rights.
Christianity puts his neighbour first.
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I don't think Democracy and Democrat is the same thing. Democrat is a political party in the USA, and it has changed because it used to be for slavery and black people are mostly Democrats now. I don't know if Christianity puts neighbors first, I'm just saying that playing keep away from the needy is offensive and that's what Republicans tend to do, and that Jesus would not be happy about that. There really aren't a lot of rights to demand, since we grow up understanding what bullying is. I don't think Hillary Clinton wants to take away people's guns. She has never said she wanted to but people say that she wants to anyways, because at least Donald Trump lies and says that. The reason that I say Jesus is a Democrat is the same reason that some Catholic nuns are Democrat. I want poor people to have a bigger hand out at the expense of the wage earners, like Jim_Mich said. And I think Jesus would want that too. Economically, I think the biggest gains would come from exports and intellectual property exports. Right now Canada doesn't pay for all of the drug patents and I guess that's excusable but nearly every other intellectual property should be protected so that our exports are as valuable as possible. Business people should feel secure about their property rights and they should be able to take money from countries all over the world and become insanely wealthy in their own country as a result because of international trade. Some countries should be able to print some money and inflate their economy so that they can afford some of these valuable US exports, and it should be the individual business owner that reaps the reward for producing these products by becoming insanely wealthy by having so many paying customers by selling to the entire world. Reducing taxes is not the answer to building up the USA economy, but rather respecting buying power from around the world and protecting property rights of business owners and their internationally earned wealth.
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God hates liars.
Crooked Hillary Clinton

Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ovu3cSDm0
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7x042TZlWY
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9hElVtASKs
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jIyy11203o
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFvBbXX1VJM
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lii0vLky9A
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kdyOFBAHM
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5163Q1ZUODc
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaEyhM5uBuo
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-8FBvv14c

Bible ref: Proverbs 6:16-19
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

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I have no vote in this, so I wish you all the very best wisdom to choose who's the best, brightest and most capable to represent you all.
Good luck.

By the way, this is what Youtube suggested for me to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4whKTDzX82A
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jim_mich wrote:God hates liars.
Crooked Hillary Clinton

Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ovu3cSDm0
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7x042TZlWY
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9hElVtASKs
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jIyy11203o
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFvBbXX1VJM
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lii0vLky9A
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kdyOFBAHM
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5163Q1ZUODc
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaEyhM5uBuo
Crooked Hillary Clinton LIE number 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-8FBvv14c

Bible ref: Proverbs 6:16-19
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

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Lie number 1 is about her claiming that a YouTube video motivated a terrorist attack. I remember watching YouTube videos about political stuff, and some of them were very negative towards the middle east and Arabic people in the messages were threatening terrorist attacks. I reported it. Hillary probably had more information about this as the Secretary of State, and connected one of the threats to the Benghazi terrorist attack.

Lie number 2 to 4 and lie 10 is about her email server. I don't think the public gets to know the truth about this, because her emails likely were protected on the private server, and emails that are not supposed to be public have likely been deleted. The FBI looks like they just invented what they think should be classified after the fact when the actual classified emails were likely destroyed.

Lie number 5 is about her defending a rapist as a lawyer. Her attitude about it just shows that she was prejudice against her client. The thing that's offensive to me is that the client is assumed guilty because of the nature of his crime. So Hillary Clinton is offensive for thinking her client is guilty and laughing about it even though he passed a lie detector test, and the resulting media attention he is getting making him look guilty, when he was innocent.

Lie number 6 is about ObamaCare and them saying people would not lose their insurance if they liked their insurance. I know that Obama likely didn't personally write the entire Affordable Care act law, he just supported it because he wanted more health care coverage for people. If there weren't a grid lock in congress any mistakes could have been corrected but Republican Congress wanted to ONLY repeal ObamaCare instead of working on it.

Lie number 7 is about Hillary Saying that she was broke after the Bill Clinton Presidency. I believe she was broke but they started making money quickly and the dignity of the President of the USA is protected by the federal government so they are also allowed free money from the government.

Lie number 8 is Hillary Clinton saying that Veterans care facing delays is not as widespread as is being claimed. I mean this sounds really horrible and if Hillary Clinton becomes President somebody should lobby to a representative to personally talk to Hillary Clinton about fixing this, because she might not be aware of it if she is saying this. I think that healthcare in general is something that she supports being available to everybody.

Lie number 9 is her saying she doesn't like coal but supports coal miners. Coal faced regulation during George W. Bush's presidency but the regulations were ignored. Coal is basically STILL being told to make it cleaner. Algae would be a good way for coal to be clean, but no capitalist has retrofitted this into the entire coal industry, and it's like they want to fail or get their dirty coal ways forever. Coal can be retrofitted or it's really super filthy. Don't you think?

Jim_Mich I think that you support Donald Trump because you are a libertarian and that's basically a let poor people fend for themselves sort of ideology. I think the government should be well funded and meet all of the needs of the government like policing and infrastructure, and at least contribute to preventing people from suffering from a society that rewards the individual too strongly for being successful and lets others face painful outcomes for being inadequate. I bet you would be happy with no income tax, but as a contradiction also want no money to be printed. We are solid political opposites. I've voted for EVERY increase in police funding and funding for the local schools in my city.
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