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Just sharing what I found when I connected a few lines...but, yes, there does appear to be a perfect perspective cube (not isometric) in the center of the drawing. Thoughts anyone?

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Does it really look like a PERFECT cube?

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(Lol, why did you mess it up, Raj? ;P It's perspective.) Three concentrically symmetrical rhomboids yields a perspective cube with three vanishing points (but it only needs two)...yes, it is a perfect perspective cube, Raj.

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I found this image on a simple Google search. I didn't draw it, but it's a good illustration of vanishing points in perspective.
I found this image on a simple Google search. I didn't draw it, but it's a good illustration of vanishing points in perspective.
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Your second drawing is an outstanding proof of what to are saying.

Your first drawing do not provide me with an accurate proof that it is a cube, though I have to admit that IT LOOKS very likely it is.

The dimensions of the sides and angles are not verifiable.

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How's this? I blew it up...and...I added more color...

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That's Interesting Silvertiger !


What happens when you use an angle of 26 degrees and 94 ?


That angle of 25 to 27 degrees ( depending on how I feel and the perceived quality of the protractors I have used ) intrigues me.
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It would pretty much look the same. I used AutoCAD, inserted the image and traced over it, then found the radii of the circles and the angles based on the nearest whole number they rounded to. The trace gave me 94.6 degrees so I rounded it to 95.

In alchemy, the cube is the symbol for Earth. In Bessler's time, Earth was a popular construct for the behavior of pendulums. We know Bessler had knowledge of the popular science of the day, as he differentiates between momentum and impetus quite distinctly, and pop-sci defined side-to-side motion using the terms up and down relative to the nadir position. The pendulum is hung from the heavens, falls to the Earth, passes through the core, and rises up from the other side. While one weight is given an upward impetus, another is given an equal, downward one. And yet, he is describing side-to-side movement, as the arc-length of the celestial pendulum through the Earth is so small compared to its full circle that it is considered flat. I always found that interesting.

Note: The closest forced matrix that matches the drawing is a septagram into an equilateral triangle (or hexagon depending on how you look at it), yielding the degrees of 25.7143 and 94.2857 to get 120. The drawing itself has its limits on accuracy, and so it is possible that this is the case.
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Dear Silvertiger,
I sincerely hope you are on to something really what we are all aspiring for.
Best of luck.

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@Art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o580MQZ ... tu.be&hd=1

I drew the closest approximation using the angles of a septagram.

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Silvertiger

Well I find it interesting. Not sure how it can be used yet. But nice find.
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Or you could go with my own explanation at
http://www.theorffyreuscode.com/html/ap ... wheel.html

The white angles are 24 degrees and three of them equals 72 degrees and 5 times 72 degrees equals 360.

See supporting evidence for the pentagram underneath on same page

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John Collins wrote:The white angles are 24 degrees and three of them equals 72 degrees and 5 times 72 degrees equals 360.
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In the online edition of the University of Kassel I measure 26 degrees for the bright and 94 degrees for the dark angles.

So everyone sees what he wants to see. ;-)
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John Collins wrote:Or you could go with my own explanation at
http://www.theorffyreuscode.com/html/ap ... wheel.html

The white angles are 24 degrees and three of them equals 72 degrees and 5 times 72 degrees equals 360.

See supporting evidence for the pentagram underneath on same page

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That could be more likely, since the septagram angles are more of a pain to work with lol, and the number 72 does come up quite often. Still...there's a cube lol.
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Ovaron if you read how I arrived at the angle of 24 degrees you might understand why I said it was 24 degrees.

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Silvertiger & John Collins,
Congratulations to both of you, he may have left a cube: -)
it's very interesting...
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