In the beginning was the Word....

[Gill Simo]

....and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Bessler informed us that a single word could reveal the secret of his wheel...it's one of many a thing he said that we gloss over, because our ignorance, as ever, jumps for the easier option of declaring the information to be unhelpful, of no use, rather than the harder option of bothering to ponder it.

So please...let's ponder it....

What do we know?

We know that it's pretty safe to assume that Bessler wasn't lying...& we know that it doesn't require trawling through every dictionary in every known language to assertain that no such word exists. One word cannot possibly achieve that result...so what gives?

There's only one possibility...that Bessler isn't refering to a single word uttered in general, he is refering to a word uttered in reference to the information he has provided us with.....that with one word in mind, something within his writings becomes very clear.

Now you folk have a tendency I know, to go to extraordinary lengths to seek clues in extraordinary places but I've always prefered to keep it simple...in that there is only one definitive clue...an engraving, written beneath "Here's a clue, if not here's the solution, can you not see it yet?"

That we can't suggests to me that it's here that this word comes into play. That here there is a word that unlocks the apparently meaningless engraving rendering it if not an obvious then at least very meaningful.

There are of course precious few words that go along with the engraving...just the quote beneath...a quote that we know contains a thinly veiled code resulting in the year in question...1717.

We figure that this is Bessler alerting us to codes being at play....deeper codes than the one alerting us.

I think maybe not...but rather than bore you's with what I think straight out I'd like to play a wee game for a while by asking you's a question.

And although I'm no match for Bessler when it comes to using/presenting words very carefully/cunningly, the question is kinda Bessler'esque in nature...dwell on it thoughtfully.

That 1717...what do you make of it?

Regards/Gill

[Senax]

Jahbulon perhaps?

Bessler was a Freemason and I did read once that Freemasons were terrified
of saying that word.

Don't know why. Perhaps it summoned up the devll.

Each syllable of the 'ineffable name' represents one person of this trinity:

JAH = Jahweh, the God of the Hebrews
BUL = Baal, the ancient Canaanite fertility god associated with 'licentious rites of imitative magic'
ON = Osiris, the Ancient Egyptian god of the underworld.

[Gill Simo]

Thank you Senax....in posing the question 1717...what do you make of it, then I of course suggest that there may be something to make of it.....a something that unlocks the engraving above.
Interesting as Jahbulon may be...it doesn't fit the lock for me & I doubt it does for you?
I should re-state.. it's just a wee game with an intent to stir the imagination. The answer isn't definitive, it's a perhaps, one that I've actually mentioned in the past with little interest shown...so please take part but don't complain when the wee game ends. Its ending is just my chosen way to best start something else.. something that requires imagination.
And I can't help but feel that imagination around here reminds me of a new pot of paint.....where upon popping the lid I'm confronted by a jelly yoghurt....that needs a bloody good stir before it's rendered fluid & usable.

I point that out as a problem for me, not as a dig at you's.
So please....Ponder the very simple question & imagine an equally simple, plausible, answer.

[Senax]

Thank you Senax....in posing the question 1717...what do you make of it, then I of course suggest that there may be something to make of it.....a something that unlocks the engraving above.
Interesting as Jahbulon may be...it doesn't fit the lock for me & I doubt it does for you?

On the contrary. I can assure you it fits perfectly for me. I believe JB made a pact with the devil and had no intention of helping anyone. I believe that he intended to sow confusion and this forum is a good example of just how well he's managed that. Alemania Bessler's thread is the latest example.

The history of Freemasonry encompasses the origins, evolution and defining events of the fraternal organisation known as Freemasonry. It covers three phases. Firstly, the emergence of organised lodges of operative masons during the Middle Ages, then the admission of lay members as "accepted" masons (a term reflecting the ceremonial “acception� process that made non stone masons members of an operative lodge) or speculative masons, and finally the evolution of purely speculative lodges, and the emergence of Grand Lodges to govern them. The watershed in this process is generally taken to be the formation of the first Grand Lodge in London in 1717. The two difficulties facing historians are the paucity of written material, even down to the 19th century, and the misinformation generated by masons and non-masons alike from the earliest years.

[agor95]

Could the word be 666 ?

After the Beloved Souls moved on I was thinking about some balance.

So three golden spiral devices on the AP image acting like MT18 came too mind.

Possibly with five segments making up the spiral.

The spirals would be like the 6 and the wheel would rotate clockwise only.

Just a thought.

[sleepy]

I always felt that Bessler was speaking poetically with the "one word" statement. As an example, if you're reading a spy novel a character might say,"I was undercover in the company of the enemy, and just a word might give me away". Like Bessler was saying if someone was close to understanding his design, a word spoken off-the-cuff might give it away.

[Gill Simo]

Thank you again for indulging in my nonsense.
I don't expect many will, through indifference they might say but I'd be inclined to suspect inability as more likely sadly.
agor95...my money was kinda on you as you've been following my recent moves more closely than any here of late.....
I won't play around for too much longer but I'll tell it like this as a final opportunity...you'll surely get it?

You apply for a job where mental agility is considered a requirement. At the interview you're presented with a test....
On the desk in front of you are four pieces of something...wood, metal, whatever...two straight, two angled.
They are arranged before you to spell out the number 1717.
The question you are being asked to ponder is....what do you make of it...one word.
One word gets you the job & the key to Bessler's engraving...perhaps?

[agor95]

My only guess is a number to letter cypher. It is stated that 666 was the code for the Emperor Nero using Hebrew numerology.

Hopefully the code breakers here can have a go. My cyphers are digital.

Regards

[Art]

1:7) 1:7)

[raj]

1 and 7 put close together form a triangle.

1 and 7 form another triangle.

Two triangles form the STAR OF DAVID !!!

Raj

[raj]

I see 1 ans 7 as shape drawings.

NOT NUMBERS.

1 and 7 as shapes drawings joined together can also form a Z.

Two Z can form a SWASTIKA.

Raj

[silent]

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[Senax]

I see 1 ans 7 as shape drawings.

NOT NUMBERS.

1 and 7 as shapes drawings joined together can also form a Z.

Two Z can form a SWASTIKA.

Raj

Add the seven to the one twice and you have two fat ladies, the 88 mm
anti-aircraft gun that Rommel adapted so brilliantly as and anti-tank weapon
and you also have the first two characters of my email address. 😊

[ME]

At the interview you're presented with a test....
On the desk in front of you are four pieces of something...wood, metal, whatever...two straight, two angled.
They are arranged before you to spell out the number 1717.
The question you are being asked to ponder is....what do you make of it...one word.

*Picks up the nearest book, and browses a little...
The word is "WATER".
As I walk out whether they will think it's correct or not, I mumble something about the importance of raising... multiple possible things.

[Senax]

....and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Bessler informed us that a single word could reveal the secret of his wheel...

Swinging.



It's interesting that Bessler did not show a swing amongst his toys.