Can Pythagoras theorem be proven wrong?

[raj]

I have accidentally, while checking on my pendulums wheel concept just now, found something that proves Pythagoras theorem wrong?

Raj

[agor95]

Other than the fact the theorem is thousands of years older than Pythagoras.

I assume the area of the squares made using the length of the smaller sides can fill the area of a square made from a square made using the length of the largest side.

Can be done with paper cut into the correct shape.

I trust your proof is more complex?

All the Best

[agor95]

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pythagorous+p ... Rps6Imptt4

[ME]

raj, what did you find?

[raj]

Hello ME,

I have found a way to prove Pythagoras theorem wrong.

I can prove this in minutes.

My problem now is how do I claim this discovery proof as MINE, before disclosing the proof to the world.

Any suggestion will be most welcomed.

Thank you.

Raj

[Fletcher]

My suggestion raj is firstly clearly identify exactly what theorem you are going to prove wrong. To avoid confusion.


Generally accepted as Pythagoras' Theorem :

"the square on the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle is equal in area to the sum of the squares on the other two sides."

Pythagorean theorem :

Description

In mathematics, the Pythagorean theorem, also known as Pythagoras' theorem, is a fundamental relation in Euclidean geometry among the three sides of a right triangle. It states that the area of the square whose side is the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the areas of the squares on the other two sides. Wikipedia

a^2 + b^2 = c^2

a = side of right triangle
b = side of right triangle
c = hypotenuse

Is this the Pythagorean Theorem you are talking about here ?


I'm guessing you believe you have a particular right triangle where the theorem doesn't hold up ?

[raj]

Yes Fletcher,
This is the Pythagoras theorem I a talking about.
I am familiar with this theorem since my school days.

As soon as I saw my drawing, I immediately recognise what I had found. I saw Pythagoras theorem at one glance being proved wrong.

It’s such a simple proof. I just want to show you all on this forum. But I fear I might not be recognised as the originator of this proof.

Please help.
How do I proceed to safeguard my idea. It is not something that can be copyright, trademark or patent.

Can forum members help me with advice of how I proceed with my scientific finding.

Thank you all.

Raj

[Fletcher]

Talking about at a glance raj.

Here is Plato's Proof of being able to Double or Halve Squares using Right Triangles at a glance - no Math or Geometry required. N.B. Oystein has a thread on it IINM. I just whipped it up.

Called Meno's Slave Problem IIRC.

Proving that an uneducated slave could do geometry and use common sense. Neat little 'at a glance and with a toe in the dirt' proof.

If yours is as easy to see when you reveal it then you will be as famous as Plato and Euclid without any effort, I should think. It'd go viral !

[raj]

Dear Fletcher,

How to go viral, please.

Raj

[Fletcher]

I'd suggest you draw it up in MS Paint or some such drawing program. It pays to have a grid background so people can see your proof at a glance and that it can be scaled etc.

Give instructions on the drawing to be followed to duplicate your proof.

Print and sign your full name at the bottom, with where you are from (Mauritius etc), and the date ! Mark it copyright - it can't hurt. The copyright symbol is a circle with a C inside it.

N.B. you may like to use a drawing program then print it out. Then hand sign etc if you prefer - so your signature is recorded. Scan it and take a photo to your computer. A thumb print is optional ;7)

Post it on this thread. Make a YouTube presentation of your proof and load it up.

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The Math Heads amongst us will be all over it. And if your proof can't be disproved then they will post it up to specialist Math forums etc, for discussion and circulation, I should think. There'd be enormous interest in such a proof. And questions - where did we go wrong ? Enormous buzz and excitement that would filter down to school texts in every land. They'd erect statues in parks and name streets after you ;7)

Much like the Bessler mystery if it were solved !

[raj]

Many thanks Fletcher, for your valuable advise.

Raj

[Fletcher]

Yeah .. some of my friends say I'm positively full of it ;7)

[agor95]

Hi Raj

I recommend you get your proof peer-reviewed.

Also write up your proof and post it to yourself.

This will have a date stamp and if you need to verify
you had the proof first - there is the verification.

So Private Message some one here to check your proof
after you get your letter back.

All the Best

[Art]

Oh - FFS ,

-take it over to Community Buzz - it will be safe over there from the MIB's and those that care about the future of civilization !

[ME]

My problem now is how do I claim this discovery proof as MINE,

I understand. Bessler had the same issue showing his wheels.
A proper solution to this particular issue, my friend, will outshine any Pythagoras exception you might have stumbled upon.

Give me a moment. I'll try to find a solution.