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World Record: WindPower

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http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/002470.html

World Record: WindPower
We get the same power at half the windspeed of a normal turbine, for the same diameter, because we have more rotors. At the same speed, we get six (6) times the power(!), by adding six additional rotors behind the first. Rotors are placed out of the wake of preceding rotors in order to receive fresh wind. A total of 21 blades are well placed to receive fresh wind and turn a common generator - Total moving parts: 1
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Good read, An idea that could be used, is using a lifting balloon attached to a light weight cable, (to carry power and keep the balloon floating) so lifting the balloon to extremely great heights, possibly into a slip stream where winds speeds reach up to 200mph+ and could be a constant source of free power, although you would have to put a no flight zone around the area. If the turbine is light enough and can generate enough power for the amount of effort put into the design then I guess this would be worth it.

the other benfits is that there are no unsightly turbines to ruin the landscape, other than a cable that would be hardly noticed from a distance.
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Not to mention...

the abundant TV/Radio Antenna around the US that could be adapted to this...???

I could imagine a line "that long" would generat alot of power!

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If the bar were made into a triangle, the asthtics, rigidity and power could all be increased immensly. Where I live there are at times high winds, but most of the time there is hardly a breeze. If there was more wind I would probably have built a wind generator by now.
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Eureka! Hey...

If these work so well in towers...

How about a line along a river???!!!

I was just reading about how they plan to put a underwater generator in NY...
"turbines to harness the energy of East River, which flows at 3-4 knots"
This large overt propeller...

Wouldn't these be easier and more powerful??????

An underwater power "drag-line" of these concurrent fan blades...?

What do you think...?

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I thought I draw a picture...

an "Anchor" generator could be drop in current paths or rivers and the water-kite will produce power...
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As long as you could minimise the disturbed water between turbines it looks good. Just like putting a speed boats propeller at the bow rather than the stern increases its power transfer & efficiency. 'Dirty' water is just like air vortices etc creating drag for aircraft.
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I just recently found this...

its simaler...

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So basically , they just added more blades.

Why did the common windmills of 80 years ago used for pumping water have like 50 blades and ultra high tech ones of today have two or three?
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Many blades give you low-speed-high-torque, while a few give high-speed-low-torque. IINM, the former does give you a larger amount of power since you are intercepting more wind, but it is not opitmal for electric generators which prefer the high speed.
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terry5732 wrote:So basically , they just added more blades.

Why did the common windmills of 80 years ago used for pumping water have like 50 blades and ultra high tech ones of today have two or three?
Terry and Jonathan, with over 20 years experience with large generators I feel that I can speak freely.

First the many blade windmill went by the wayside, with the exception of a small DC generator to feed batteries it's usage is limited. Yes it works for pumping water but not AC generators. The preferred speed for a 60 cycle system is around 80 RPM. and must be held constant.

With multiple blades, they effect each other by being in the wake of the previous. THey also have a tendency to set up a resonant vibration which eventually fatigues the metal.

Todays consensus is that two with a maximum of three blades is the most productive and cost effective. These are also limited in radius due to resonant frequencies. In a strong wind they are designed to feather or shut down to prevent over speeding. Two to three blade develope a more even torque that must be maintained to produce the 60 cycle current used he in the West while the European countries use 50 cycle.

One must consider that any electrical production attached to the grid must produce not only the same cycles but be in phase.

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