Bessler - Aristotle - Primum Movens - MT15

[Oystein]

I think MT is not only a description of mechanics, but also an encoded book applying Natural Philosophy, Religion, Geometry and Algebra etc. A multi-layered schoolbook with hidden tests for intelligent students and for securing historical traditions and a a secret missing mechanical principle, all in one.

Example:
Here comes a curious observation regarding MT 15:

Firstly I think the connection between MT 13 and 15 based on the fact that both need some unmoved moved or Primum Movens to work. MT 13 has a visible internal "Unmoved Mover" (Primum Movens). Then MT 15 is based on the same basic principle, but the internal Primum Movens is missing. At the same time Bessler writes that "Nothing of the Primum Movens can be seen or deduced". Is it missing or maybe invisible?

At the same time we can also se that MT 15 is the only machine where the outer ring or rim is missing!
The outer spherical weights is working outside of the wheel and the Primum Movens is nowhere to see..

Studying Catholicism, the Jesuit order, Philosophy and Geometry (The basic of Masonry) we will find that Plato's student Aristotle wrote about the "Primum Movens". In Aristoles universe of 55 spheres The Primum Movens is what makes all the spheres of the universe rotate. The Primum Movens is INVISIBLE (like an ether) and is located at the (or outside the outher sphere of the rotating universe. As it is what giving motion to all other things, it is also argued to be God. Aristotle also argued that maybe each sphere needed their individual Prime mover! (Pairs) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmoved_mover

Different name for the same thing: Primum Movens, Primum Mobile, Prime Mover, Unmoved Mover, First Mover etc.

More thoughts to come..
Best
ØR

[Oystein]

So, would Bessler know about this Primum Movens of Aristotle?

I would answer yes, most definitely. The teachings of Aristotle was the main philosophy of the Jesuits, and in fact their true teachings. Bessler was trading secrets with a Jesuit priest, and himself some of a christian theologian, and self-proclaimed spy on all secret knowledge, so yes.

Aristotle was a personal student of Plato and Geometry too, so it wouldn't be far out to also look for Plato in this scheme.

Plato's Meno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meno#/med ... ing_29.gif based on a dialogue with the the first of the three great Philosophers Socrates. Where Meno (The slave) show how even through nature, a person can come up with the correct concept. It must be a basic inherited system of nature.

Plato show us the simplest way of halving or doubling the area of a square. And the method also works for halving/doubling the area of a circle.

In this MT15 drawing, the method of Plato's Meno for doubling of the area of a square is applied for calculating the outer missing/invisible circle/sphere of the "Primum Movens" of Aristotle. (Based on Socrates and Platos work.) By the way, we can see now how such could be called "something" of the Philosophers..

Please take note of how the frame of the number-plate fits perfectly that of Plato's Meno, and how the outer spheres fits the missing circle (red).

[Oystein]

Lastly, and more related to the PM mechanics in the machine...

How or what is pushing or pulling the upper sphere/weight? If it's not the internal stationary object from MT 13, what from outside the machine could move it? Is it Aristotle's Primum Movens? "The hand of God" ?

Can this also be deduced from the applying Aristotle, Plato and Jesuit/Masonic teachings?

More to come..

Best
ØR

[WaltzCee]

It must be a basic inherited system of nature.

Why conflate the intrinsic holographic nature of creation and some nonexistent entity with rights such as inheritence.

Is this poetic license or a tendency to govern manifested by giving and taking rights?

[Fletcher]

Oystein .. well done ! .. I don't just like it .. I love it !

Very plausible and on target imo.

[SHADOW]

Peux être est ce la troisième dimension qui nous donnera ce cercle moyen !!?
Je pense au Mt 143
J.B

Maybe this is the third dimension that will give us this middle circle!!?
I think of Mt 143
J.B

[Oystein]

Oystein .. well done ! .. I don't just like it .. I love it !

Very plausible and on target imo.

Thank you Fletcher.

Attached is a world famous painting of Plato (the teacher) and Aristotle "the student".
- Painted by Raphael in 1509 - 1511 - "School of Athens"
- Rosicrucians today, praise Raphael. (See attached from Rosicrucian Facebook site.) thus also daVinci, Plato and Aristotle etc.
- The curious thing is that Plato is drawn in the shape of Leonardo daVinci.
- daVinci did experiments and drawings of Perpetual Motion and studied nature at the highest level of his time, and I think Bessler compared himself to daVinci. (A successful daVinci..)
- I found in my studies of Masonry (hidden geometry and science in art and literature) that what Bessler "invisibly" puts in his paintings .. (for example Geometry of the philosopher Plato), is also just the same as Leonardo daVinci base many of his paintings on.. and what other artists related to Rosicrucianism and Masonry also does.
- I claim that this painting of the school of Athens by Raphael, is not just a painting of the school and the great philosophers, but is also based on the Geometry of Plato the teacher (and daVinci)! And this secret (internal group-knowledge), including how and where daVinci (and others like Bessler and great historical artists) applied it is what Masonry is, in my opinion.

This was just added to support the idea of a great artist (like Bessler) applying the "team" Plato and Aristotle in great art. For some reason Bessler spoke like MT had great value of it's own, and valued at 10% of his working PM.

[Oystein]

But now, where does this lead us regarding mechanical motion and PM?

The problems of MT 15 is that the top lever-arm does rise without being neither pushed (Mt13) or pulled and the Primum Movens is missing.

If we are correct when concluding that Aristoteles universe is the secret model for this by applying Plato's Meno, we must find the Primum Movens. Primum Movens resides at or outside the outer spheres/2D-circle of the outer fixed stars, and is invisible.

I have earlier argued that Jesus and Perpetual Motion etc. (of the universe) was more than once secretly described by the numbers "5 3". This comes from the nature of a 3-4-5 triangle made known by Pythagoras. Where the side 5 and 3 meet, the angle is 53 degrees. I claim also that this is why the AP-wheel was constructed from the geomtry of 5 and 3. And also Bessler's other small figures where some special figure could become both 3 and/or 5.

Lets find the invisible 5&3 and see how it possibly could push or pull the upper lever!

If I draw i line directly on top, extending the tail of the number "5". A line hits the upper lever, where you would need to pull to get it to rise! At the same time the number "5" has become the base for both being number 3 and 5 ! And I claim this is also why drawing number 13 and 15 was made "twin drawings". Now 5&3, Primum Movens / God finally pulls and moves the spheres below!

Food for thought: This "pulling number-plate" now seems to remind me of the box of stones, pulling in Bessler's drawings.. out there in the outskirts of the drawing, against the sky.. pulling.. From this I suggest that ropes, band, or belts close to the rim, pulls weighted levers/"hammers" at the 12 - 1 o'clock position in the wheel..

MT15 Nothing og Primum Movens can be seen Primum Movens Move outer sphere.jpg (14.51 KiB) Viewed 2466 times

[Sam Peppiatt]

Oystein,
Seams like MT-15 clearly shows WHAT has to happen. I.E., the weights have to shift in on the up side and out on the down side. But, as usual he never shows you HOW; how to do that----------------------------------------Sam

[Oystein]

Oystein,
Seams like MT-15 clearly shows WHAT has to happen. I.E., the weights have to shift in on the up side and out on the down side. But, as usual he never shows you HOW; how to do that----------------------------------------Sam

I have to both agree and disagree with that statement. I have to agree with you that he don't show the whole concept in one drawing. But, in my opinion, he can show how it's done, if we finish the "school-lectures/tasks" in several drawings.

- In this drawing I take note of that a weighted lever is lifted and flipped through a rope or belt at the 12 - 1 o'clock position. Another weight would be doing the pull (Primum Movens).
- Since this also was found through what I consider to be a hidden message, through a consistent code, I believe it confirms it was hidden intentionally, to confirm it was actually applied in his machine.
- I also take note of that many of the drawings before and after MT15 uses ropes to pull weighted levers at 12 o'clock + position.
- A also take note of that Bessler mentions ropes and interconnections as vital.

- By similar methods I was able to find what seems to be many confirmations that this rope passes over a pulley-wheel,
- I can also go as far as to mention that by the same code/system in AP, I was in several places, and in my opinion able to deduce a message that say and show: "Belt raising axe" and "weight lifting through belt", at 1 o'clock position.

I think that when you have enough bits and pieces you would have a description of a whole system.

Best
ØR

[Oystein]

Those who are curious will se that there are another drawing where the "rim" is missing, and that is "MT 22"!

MT 22 has a visible "Primum Movens" for each weighted lever! And guess what more... The tails of the numbers "22" is somewhat peculiar placed and drawn, and it seems to makes up a line, matching that of the upper weighted lever... But what would such a line mean? Why put a line there..?

The method of first squaring (framing the circle) and then doubling/halving of the circle and square fits into that hidden line..

Aristotle, Plato and "Primum Movens" raising a weighted lever at 12-1 o'clock (This contraption will start to rise later than 12 o clock).

Best
ØR