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[Leafy]

I’ve been building a lot.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/E8GK6JZYnZ8?feature=share

[Leafy]

This is the design if you’re interested. Try to lock the bottom half from moving.

[Leafy]

Btw the right weight is less than the left weight. The idea is small weight lifting big weight with 1:1 lever ratio.

[Leafy]

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[Leafy]

Too much info… delete

[JUBAT]

I just came here from watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXo6WvHRs_I

About pumping a swing and how the bend in the chain actually shortens the distance from the weight to the pivot point. This kind of gets to the kiiking thing all over again, but the problem is making weights stand up and sit down.

I think there might be something to having 2 weights hooked together on a pivot, because the weight is then seen at a point in between the 2 and allowing them to tip a little or spin a little, makes the "seen" weight move.

Still, if we were to make a model of a person in a swing on a chain, it still isn't going to move without that pumping action introduced and we know this because if you sit on a swing and just hold yourself in the pumping position with zero input, you soon will stop swinging. You also have the introduced 360 rotation which you don't have to contend with while swinging on a real swing.

Years ago I made a neat contraption that used a ratchet strap. On that strap were firmly glued segments of wood about 3 inches long and exactly the same width as the strap. The ends of those segments of wood should have been tapered, but what I ended up with is something that is stiff as a board in one direction - imagine holding out a staff...but then rotate it quickly 180 degrees and it falls limp (no jokes please.)

While it's hanging limp, you can rotate it 180 degrees and start to lift it up again. So if you imagine this mechanism in a wheel - you could have all the weight at the end of this rigid strap and it's putting all the force on the hub. Once it hits the bottom, it hangs there while the hub continues to rotate. At that point you would need a tether to take the weight of the now unsupported weight until it makes it to the top and the cycle repeats.

I never built anything to test and see if it was a runner or not - but it was still a neat mechanism to observe.

[Leafy]

Remind me of my failed experiment. I was about to go overunity when the rubber band broke lol.

https://youtu.be/TzmM_YRrYXU

[Leafy]

Ps: no patent on this please, I’m going to try file it to have some first accomplishment in life lol

[Leafy]

Check my math if the patent office ask.

Work input = (mg - Fspring) x h
Work output = mgh

Coefficient of performance = mg/(mg-Fspring)
Fspring = k(x)
If we keep everything the same, we can change spring constant to have better COP.

[Tarsier79]

Why patent?

Locking at the bottom doesn't do anything. It needs to be lifted in the opposite direction.

[Leafy]

I let gravity do the lifted in the opposite. I was going to let the band aiding to pull the weights up.

Dunno, having a patent to tell people you have a patent. It doesn’t matter if the invention works. 😂

[JUBAT]

Really neat demonstration. Of course the energy supplied for the swinging came from you, but still neat to see how that affects the swinging. That's the one clue that I can't get over - weights gained force by swinging. Children also play with this principle when they swing.

What kills me about this massive prank Bessler pulled is that trying to find something that goes OU in a wheel - leaves you looking for something that is already OU and we know nothing exists like that except the sun, earth rotation, weather, etc. - things in nature. But with inanimate objects that man makes there is absolutely nothing that runs of its own free will, own accord, and without human intervention.

If the devil was involved in Bessler's wheel, he pulled off the biggest time-wasting prank on mankind. I suppose the wheels could have been possessed and Bessler ultimately paid for his success with his life when he fell off the tower.

It literally defies common sense that just because you take inanimate objects and put them in a rotating frame of reference, that they suddenly can start moving on their own. As I get older, I'm starting to truly believe that man cannot make a machine that runs perpetually on its own. It just defies all things logical. It's like trying to invent a way to get to the moon with a 55 gallon drum and a giant slingshot. It just isn't going to happen and anyone that claims they know how had better have deep pockets to bribe about 13 individuals into saying they saw you do it.

[Leafy]

To me weight gained force by swinging pointing to centrifugal/centripetal force. But Bessler wheel start from static so it probably not involved. However it might be related to the principle of 1 lift 4 because we can use cf to aid lifting weight like a spring. My opinion

Yes, I don’t think the wheel works without gravity. I think of it like you put a perfect flywheel into the wind and make a turbine. Not going to happens. We have to do something to it like make an angle. Same with gravity wheel, we have to do something to it, but still need gravity.

[Robinhood46]

Check my math if the patent office ask.

Work input = (mg - Fspring) x h
Work output = mgh

Coefficient of performance = mg/(mg-Fspring)
Fspring = k(x)
If we keep everything the same, we can change spring constant to have better COP.

Can we not somehow get it to work using a similar technique to those who convince themselves of having a generator that produces more electricity than it needs to run?
If i put 1 lb·ft of force into a wheel at a given speed and get 1.1875 n·m out at the same speed, is that not over unity?
1.1875 is a bigger number than 1 by about 18.75%. That's a pretty good efficiency.

[Leafy]

Yeah, I can’t figured it out. I already clean out my workshop. I’m outta here. I’m not curious anymore. Best of luck to you men.