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by ectropy
Sat May 02, 2009 7:00 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why don't Perpetual Gravity Wheels Work ?
Replies: 137
Views: 31859

re: Why don't Perpetual Gravity Wheels Work ?

Oops! sorry Fletcher. But you will know which is your quote won`t you? Regards.
by ectropy
Sat May 02, 2009 6:57 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why don't Perpetual Gravity Wheels Work ?
Replies: 137
Views: 31859

re: Why don't Perpetual Gravity Wheels Work ?

Hi Fletcher, " a small mass at greater radius can swing a heavier mass on a shorter moment to 12 o'cl, but it cannot lift it to the same radius as the lesser driving mass & be at 12 o'cl " Yes, with reference to conventional designs. Look back at a few of Pathfinder`s animations. Mass ...
by ectropy
Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:57 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why don't Perpetual Gravity Wheels Work ?
Replies: 137
Views: 31859

re: Why don't Perpetual Gravity Wheels Work ?

Hi Fletcher, Way back at the beginning of this thread you quoted " How do I move a mass from the bottom to the top using less force than F=ma"? Well that is pretty obvious by using unequal Moment Arms. The question should be "How do I design a mechanism to control the length of the Mo...
by ectropy
Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:02 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

"this design could be able to reach your favorite rule (co-incident axis)". Hi Pathfinder, Nice one. Yes BUT out of context in that it is at the cost of the Prime Mover offset path. ie; All paths are symmetrical about the z plane through the main axis. I may be missing your intent though! ...
by ectropy
Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:07 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, You certainly come up with some weird and wonderful ideas. Congrats to that. But that damn offset axis? Regards.
by ectropy
Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:27 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi again Pathfinder, My "cam" was not a solid disc but a ring as the main shaft was supported by bearings on both ends. The main shaft protruded through the "cam". The "cam" was held in position by cam followers and rotated (well it was supposed to) at the same velocity...
by ectropy
Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, I don`t seem to be getting my point across re; offset axis, whether it be fixed or "virtual". Mind you there is no such thing as a "virtual" axis. My conclusion does not stem from theory but from analysing way way back why my wheel failed to give me even a hint of ...
by ectropy
Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:06 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, Not sure what your meaning is with shifting the main axis but yes the controlling mechanism axis and main axis must be coincident. eg, disregard the weight of the wheel and peripherals. manually lift the the unit by the control shaft. The whole will rotate in the opposite direction as...
by ectropy
Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:51 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, I am obviously not on the same page as you. You seemed to be going in the same direction that I have been going for over 3 years but suddenly you deviate from a design that has REAL promise. My experiments have shown that what is required for the control mechanism is a MINIMUM of exce...
by ectropy
Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:09 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, No, not impatient at all. Been there, done that. Just curious as to how long it will take for somebody (yourself)? to latch on to the required mechanism. I just had to mention the conflicting rotational forces as this phenomenon is the Achilles Heel of this design of which you are no ...
by ectropy
Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:24 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, Hate to be a stick in the mud again but your animation is a non runner. I can state this with utmost certainty because I have built not one but many variations of the design. Dump the cross. It is serving absolutely no purpose. The motive force would be on the Blue gears. The Blue gea...
by ectropy
Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:16 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, Replace the words "much friction" in my previous post with "much resistance". Fixing the cam in any configuration is immaterial. The force of the weights acting on the cam will simply be transferred to the fixture where ever that fixture may be. What is important i...
by ectropy
Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:32 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, This is a very popular design but can never produce a self starting self sustaining rotary motion. In addition to Fletcher`s observations, the following; 1) All weights that are in contact with the cam on the horizontal plane do not contribute any torque to the wheel as the weights ar...
by ectropy
Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is to build a working wheel...
Replies: 275
Views: 92709

re: We don't care the Bessler wheel, the most important is t

Hi Pathfinder, Excellent. Allow me to present a real nutcracker scenario. We have a fixed stationary gear with, lets say 12 teeth. Irrespective of the Module or DP. Size is not important here. We have another gear of 12T which engages with the fixed gear and does one full revolution about the fixed ...