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by Daniel.R
Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:57 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

This might be a bit off-topic, but I found it interesting. I enjoy watching Adam Savage's Tested YouTube channel and stumbled upon this video a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdEdYfxMx-0 They discuss perpetual motion, and Adam tries to figure out a "perpetual motion" machine. T...
by Daniel.R
Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

Secondly, for a number of reasons, we both have feet firmly in the camp that a B. runner had a natural " oscillating" frequency, which it raced up to and then maintained ( even under load ) - to have a 'preferred' stable frequency there usually is a haptic ( tactile) feedback loop between...
by Daniel.R
Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:34 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

Thanks, Fletcher and jb! That's exactly the one. What does he actually mean by this: "And when a pound drops a quarter, it flies four pounds four quarters high" ? Is this the same as lifting 4 kg, 4 meters high with the energy from 1 kg falling 1 meter? That implies an overunity of 1500%! ...
by Daniel.R
Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:02 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

I remember a specific image discussed on this forum. I think the thread was called "Bessler's Kinematics" or something like that. It was an engraving of several mechanical principles, including a ramp, a pendulum, and a balanced pulley with two weights, etc. I have tried to find this image...
by Daniel.R
Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:40 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

The bidirectional wheel must have had an active/dynamic OOB quality to it. This OOB quality must have been closely connected to the RPM of the wheel, and it seems to have grown out of balance as RPM increased. Consider a scenario where you start the wheel in one direction. Before the wheel reaches i...
by Daniel.R
Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

Although I don't trust Algodoo, I must say that the design is quite elegant, Graham. Nice work. Will you build a real model of the idea? I find it quite daunting to build real models. However, I’m lucky to own a 3D printer, which is very helpful when there are many identical parts. The prints are ac...
by Daniel.R
Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:22 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

I have a hard time understanding your design, Graham. I understand that it requires 3D, but how are the storksbills operating? -------------------------------------- Shifting weights in the horizontal plane tends to result in a bottom-heavy wheel. IMO, for a wheel to be considered overbalanced, weig...
by Daniel.R
Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:39 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

Aren't you Daniel forgetting the most obvious fact ? - no pendulums were ever seen in existence, let alone seen attached to any wheel, either stationary or in rotation, for a short time, or a long time, whether doing a work load test or not doing work .. not free-running, not lifting stampers, not ...
by Daniel.R
Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:10 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

I'm with you with this one Graham. We can't forget that he had a tough time trying to sell his wheel. I believe his wheel had some shortcomings, though. One issue may be that it was prone to knock itself out of balance and wobble. It is said that the wheel stopped at one time while Bessler was demon...
by Daniel.R
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:00 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my speculations and many questions. This is an interesting and important discussion, in my opinion. Yes! Bessler seems to contradict himself at times, but altogether, I find his writings very important, and I like to look very carefully into both what he writes a...
by Daniel.R
Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:27 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
Replies: 1449
Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

That is a good point, Graham. But how could an accelerating wheel self-regulate without an actual brake (meaning frictional contact between two materials)? Would one try to introduce a self-regulating counter-torquing system of some kind? Bessler wrote, 'In a true Perpetuum Mobile everything must, n...
by Daniel.R
Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:33 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.
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Views: 1216416

Re: Besslers prime mover and its enabler.

Hi, Graham. I enjoyed reading your post. I absolutely agree with the idea of pausing and stepping back. Thoughts and ideas need time to brew. After all, this quest is considered impossible for a reason, and millions have already tried to accomplish what we are trying to achieve. One has to accept th...
by Daniel.R
Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: MT51 Comments Enquiry ?
Replies: 119
Views: 13687

Re: MT51 Comments Enquiry ?

Just some thoughts... Any weight falling on the descending side of the wheel will create counter-torque. A weight falling faster then the wheels rotation is not applying its full weight to the wheel. A mass in freefall is weightless, etc. It would therefor be better for weights to fall on the ascend...
by Daniel.R
Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:31 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My thoughts and questions about Bessler's writings.
Replies: 7
Views: 1680

Re: My thoughts and questions about Bessler's writings.

I recorded a short video that demonstrates the low rpm needed for a 2.25kg disc to exercise precession.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5bB4QaF-iw

It fascinates me how a heavy weight at such low RPM can exhibit this phenomenon.

/Daniel
by Daniel.R
Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:37 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My thoughts and questions about Bessler's writings.
Replies: 7
Views: 1680

Re: My thoughts and questions about Bessler's writings.

More from AP (p.293) All these quotes in this post are from JC's original translation: "I'd be lucky, actually, if it did run that long, for with you near it, even though it be the truest of all possible machines, there's always the danger that a surreptitious shove would knock it out of balanc...