This is really a religion!

[primemignonite]

GENERAL MESSAGE:

I think that Mr. Berhendt's proposal is just DANDY!

Those new classifications would be so in-keeping with this general trend, now identified. THINK of all those from without who would approve, both from the past as well as the present - the most important being Bessler himself; Frederik The Great; Adam Weishaupt; Robespierre; Necker, Danton, Cagliostro; Pike, Crowley, etc. From among the living we would have, well, we would have ourselves! Yes, there would be allies, living and not, for our ever-ripening plan.

On the distaff side, however, would be THE RCC, naturally, being definately NOT AMUSED nor AMUSABLE at any such nonesense and suspicious carryings-on (as they would no doubt see it). Also, the GREAT CORPORATIONS might raise a few collective eyebrows, but, no big deal really since their advising physicists "know" that perpetual motion is impossible anyway and worry themselves only about the bottom-line, near-term and not with the merely speculative diaphenous. No worry from that quarter . . . that is, untill the REAL DEAL manifests, and THEN . . .

One more thing, something amplifying on what Michael added: I would suggest that THE one who is FIRST to post a drawing, or drawings, from which we can all construct a working wheel, with no BS or anything left out, that HE gets promoted immediately to "Seer", regardless of how many or few posts he may have made.

This would be only fair, this special elevation for merit, would it not? THINK OF IT - sacrifycing TENS OF BILLIONS by disseminating raw, ruling truth, and for the very best of ethical and moral principles, and ALL FOR US! That is the LEAST that our high leadership could do in return, for such a fine chap.

a/b/r, James Miller

[Techstuf]

In keeping with a visceral possibility so adroitly reintroduced by Mr. Miller, might I add the possibility that this intrigue....of Bessler, his legacy, his supposed simple spoiler.....is like that curious 'ping' one might get from striking a cracked bell.

Intended, perhaps, as a diversionary pause......one from whence nature's balance demands also, it's own restoration.


Peace,


TS

(P.S. One might assume that Mr. Miller's comment as to "tens of billions" encompasses also in part, that third of the heavenly host having recently been thrown down to take up residence in earth's vicinity.)


http://www.carm.org/questions/fallen_angels.htm

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html

[Techstuf]

Jim, I think he was a man that God simultaneously gifted and tested. Bessler past some but failed the greed test, and it destroyed him.

Jonathan, I think that your short synopsis is appropo given what is known of the man.

Suppose as well, that the 'gift' came from that cunning impostor, the one worshipped by pike, crowley and that growing hoarde of their modern descendants......I would suspect that many shades of 'selfishness' coursed through the man after such revelation. But when and how can 'greed' become selflessness?

Depending upon perspective, what the man did with the machine was heroic.

Maybe......Bessler 'fell' on the 'grenade' that our time stream meet with it's ultimate destiny at it's apportioned time.


In my limited opinion, I would surmise that where one Man saved the destiny of the world with His undying love.....another would be cheated to think that a 'trinket' (by comparison) could come close to doing the same.


After all, Love covers a multitude of sins in a backward world where a free energy device might serve to inspire them.


YAHWEH bless all gathered here in Yahshua, Jesus Christ,


Amen

[primemignonite]

GENERAL MESSAGE:

At the risk of getting back ON TOPIC, where we are here not supposed to be, is THIS:

http://orffyre.tripod.com/id38.html#_THE_LEVEL_OF

It addresses directly the subject of Bessler's masonic existence. I believe that some knowledge of this reality may serve to flesh-out certain vital aspects of the big picture, aspects without which, might remain abstruse. This could be to our collective disadvantage.

The whole site is a really deep treatment on Bessler, and may not be generally known to the forum's distinguished roster. I suggest that it might well-suffer exploration, by inquiring minds, questing after ever-new thrills.

a/b/r, James Miller

[ovyyus]

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story :)

[Techstuf]

"Teach a man to think that he's thinking and he will love you.....but make him really think, and he may hate you."


To be sure, Ovyyus,


You are loved....


Despite your obvious derision for those outside your particular faith, such as it is.

[Silver Eyes]

~Techstuf ~, If I could draw some love I could. Why do you like religion? Why do you think it is important for you? Please share...

[ovyyus]

http://www.subgenius.com

[Techstuf]

Silver eyes......One of the big attractors for me is the miracle factor.....that and belonging to something larger than self....sharing love.

Peace,

TS

[Silver Eyes]

"Religion means never having to say your sorry."

[Silver Eyes]

I thought this it funny.

http://www.geocities.com/tribhis/cthulhutract.html


Edit,
Man link doesn' work.

Edit by Scott,
Now it does :-)

[Techstuf]

Still lovin ya, Bill......but it's your attitude along with millions like it....that serves to fulfill prophecy.

For it was written that spiritual devotion would become a sham in these days......true worship being subverted and overcome....used as an 'opiate of the masses'......Wolves in sheep's clothing have come in among them....plundering her wealth, ravaging her and leaving her an empty shell. It is clear what is occurring......and the apathetic attitude of most is rather akin to watching a rape take place on the street below from one's upper apartment....and not only not lifting a finger to use the phone to call for help.....but remarking to a friend that the weak, useless eater deserved it as well.

I am reminded of the story of the ranch hand surveying the herd....laughing in scorn, ridiculing that useless throng for the brand they wear and living their lives in dumb anguish.

You see, it was easier for him to blame the herd rather than his own bosses who largely raised, branded, own and control them......than to see things as they are.

It is human nature to categorize and judge others in groups according their lowest common denominator. And rare is the one overcoming such prejudice and putting upon himself a more Godly nature.


We've all made mistakes......and one's brother overlooks them in favor of what he has truly seen in his sibling.


Who then, really are your brothers?


That meek and bewildered herd......(of whom Christ says will inherit the earth) or the strong and opportunistic who are hurtling toward oblivion....many of them, their eviction notices even now being served upon them?

We're living in a kind of 'Sims' game.....being graded on our performances....a chosen few being tapped for introduction into the real world. Those who recognize it (and we ALL do to widely varying degree) are divided into those who resent their Designer and choose to burn out brightly in defiance......and those who would try and help their designer, sure of their reward.


Peace,

TS

[ovyyus]

Oldie but a goodie :)

[Silver Eyes]

~That meek and bewildered herd......

Did you know that a grain of rice has a more genes than humans do? I think this is what it means when it is said the meek shall inherent the earth when catastophe comes, even though men will try to hide in caves to save them selves from when the sky comes falling down.

[primemignonite]

Novice, Acolyte, Apprentice, Adept, Master, Seer.

ken

Dear Ken Behrendt, are you going to start a poll regarding the change you suggested? I can't think of a better idea and am greatly enthusiastic about it, as I'm sure a majority will be as well.

It would be a GREAT advance, and in perfect keeping with Bessler's age and the goings-on.

(this is the first time I've ever tried the 'insert quote' thing, so if it messes up, my apologies are offered beforehand.)

J.M.