There is a huge marketplace for "endtime prophecy" - always has been. Certainly the World will end for many individuals in the next few minutes, perhaps for some it will be later today, if not tomorrow, then the day after that...
While we crave meaning to our daily toil, others will find meaning fulfilling that craving. Some sell the latest flat screen TV's and coffee, other's sell god and prophecy. Both use similar marketing strategies - create a demand and then supply to it.
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Amen, brother ovyyus, amen!ovyyus wrote:Some sell the latest flat screen TV's and coffee, other's sell god and prophecy. Both use similar marketing strategies - create a demand and then supply to it.
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A man sorely in need of reliable transporation, trotted on down to the car dealership, and upon being approached by an articulate, well dressed and groomed man.......Immediately went into defense mode. The cocksure 'salesman' would not be allowed to work his con on this vociferously defiant potential customer.....nosiree Bob!
An 'informed' consumer, he had seen it all! He was not about to be snookered by another con job, and when he was through with all his blustering accusations about rip offs and rip off artists.....many of them generally well founded, he looked around and noticed that the man had some time ago walked over to a nice younger couple and, after speaking very few words, handed them keys and title.
Being a bit startled, and curious....he walked over to within earshot of the couple who were now standing, awestruck, near a late model car in great condition....
The 'salesman' had walked over to another vehicle, his wife, presumably at the wheel, got in and drove away.
The young couple were conversing excitedly about what the man had said,
"Honey, did you hear that!"
"He said he would rather give it to someone in need than see those hucksters stick it to him on a trade!"
As they were driving away, they noticed that the man who had been listening to them on the lot was now walking down the sidewalk. They offered him a ride, but that man was furious and too proud to accept the offer.....
Preferring instead to plod ahead, false sense of pride intact.....muttering about how he dodged getting suckered by the car dealer, the man with the gift (probably a lemon), and the couple who surely had alterior motives in mind after he had witnessed their suspicious transaction.
We have all met or know someone like this man.
A few, just might be sitting in front of their flat screen monitors or televisions, preparing to take a sip from the glass of coffee, tea, or wine sitting half empty in front of them at this very moment.
An 'informed' consumer, he had seen it all! He was not about to be snookered by another con job, and when he was through with all his blustering accusations about rip offs and rip off artists.....many of them generally well founded, he looked around and noticed that the man had some time ago walked over to a nice younger couple and, after speaking very few words, handed them keys and title.
Being a bit startled, and curious....he walked over to within earshot of the couple who were now standing, awestruck, near a late model car in great condition....
The 'salesman' had walked over to another vehicle, his wife, presumably at the wheel, got in and drove away.
The young couple were conversing excitedly about what the man had said,
"Honey, did you hear that!"
"He said he would rather give it to someone in need than see those hucksters stick it to him on a trade!"
As they were driving away, they noticed that the man who had been listening to them on the lot was now walking down the sidewalk. They offered him a ride, but that man was furious and too proud to accept the offer.....
Preferring instead to plod ahead, false sense of pride intact.....muttering about how he dodged getting suckered by the car dealer, the man with the gift (probably a lemon), and the couple who surely had alterior motives in mind after he had witnessed their suspicious transaction.
We have all met or know someone like this man.
A few, just might be sitting in front of their flat screen monitors or televisions, preparing to take a sip from the glass of coffee, tea, or wine sitting half empty in front of them at this very moment.
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As most of humanity suffers under tyrants, misled by the devil and his cohorts who've recently been thrown down here, nothing short of Yahshua, King of Kings, will remove these oppressors and bring everlasting peace.
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You see Mitch - you can tell an interesting story without resorting to fanatical imaginings of gods and devils, or various divinations of the future, or constant holy-book reference footnotes. I'm tempted to think there might be hope for you yet ;)
Well done!
Well done!
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I'm tempted to think there might be hope for you yet ;)
Well done!
On that we can agree....there is much hope all around me.
You see Mitch - you can tell an interesting story without resorting to fanatical imaginings of gods and devils, or various divinations of the future, or constant holy-book reference footnotes.
I will go out on a limb here and make the observation that your statements seem a bit patronizing.....circumstantially, at least...and in consideration of the fact that I have spoken volumes of stories in such a manner since my arrival here in our forum.
"Well done" you say....
Well intentioned, yes. Done? Hardly.
I will take as affirmative, your comprehension (partial in the least) of my message, then.
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As most of humanity suffers under tyrants, misled by the devil and his cohorts who've recently been thrown down here, nothing short of Yahshua, King of Kings, will remove these oppressors and bring everlasting peace.
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Patronizing it was not.
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you "heard" it but apparently you missed it. Its the ionic engine concept!>Could it be that this technology is extraordinary and can allow them to travel to the Moon and Mars, etc.? Its so possible.<
I gotta hear this proof.
Experiments have been done that show that charged masses(e.g. pendulums) have a different response to forces, i.e. altered inertia. Also, electomagnetic theory shows why that is.>That's the secret for "affecting" inertia. ACCELERATING ELECTROSTATIC CHARGE!!!<
And this one.
>I did some calculations once and with a ten foot diameter half sphere you can generate a lift of THOUSANDS OF POUNDS, with about a million volts potential, which is no problem in generating really, shoving your feet about a carpet can build that much in no time.<
How much current?
Valid question. The force I'm talking about does not depend on the current but on the potential. However, as the air is pulled down it will reduce the potential so more air needs to be ionised. I have not done any calculations on the amount of power it takes to maintain this condition of high potential under a given atmospheric condition. I do suspect it might not be a prohibitive amount, or something beyond our technological capability.
It does quite a lot more then one might think. More voltage means higher E-fields which means higher forces on ionized molecules. Force = E * q, and E = V/D (over short distances)Once you reach the ionization potential, more voltage doesn't do much,
you know that for a fact?My guess is that the current is huge, so that the energy needed just to hover a skimpy craft is huge too, and that explains why this effect simply isn't used.
I agree, that's logical.>Whenever you see a little 'spike' at the top of a saucer you know its probably not faked.<
If real ones have ionic drives, then they probably have spikes. But not vice versa, a pin through a pie plate does not an ion driven spacecraft make.
I happen to have found a lot of them on this forum ;)>but I agree a massless object can be made to do interesting things.<
Where did you find a massless object?
>We are actually a spectacle to the whole Universe, a quarantined planet in the process of rehabilitation. Everybody in the universe is watching right now. ... We are at the center of attention of the whole UNIVERSE!!!<
Do you have proof of this either?
Revelations 12: 7-12
And war broke out in heaven:
Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon and his angles fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the DEVIL and SATAN, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them!! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.
Techstuf, let's not throw anymore pearls to the ..... They know full well where to find the truth if they so choose. It's quite free, and salvation quite near to be grasped.
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A Story; UFO'S and how they may work"
By Ralph Lortie
Back in 1958 I was attending a navel electronics class involving radar repair, maintenance and operation thereof. We were told that every thing whether what its shape or mass has a resonant frequency. At the time we were studying electronic fields and wave transmission.
This got me to thinking, does the earth have a resonant magnetic field frequency. does a magnet have a set frequency of its emissions related to shape and size. If so then all planets would emit its own magnetic field at it's resonant frequency.
A flying saucer has a variable frequency magnetic field generator. When it want to leave earth it simply dials in earths frequency and matches phase. Thus becoming a like pole,the craft is then repelled from the planet. Once in space it tunes in the selected planet destination, only now it is a matched frequency set at 180 degrees out of phase and is attracted to said planet.
Hovering and steering is accomplished by slight variations in the phase control forcing the ship to be directed right or left of north and south pole gradients.
Where magnetic and or electronic waves travel at the speed of light, so will the saucer once free of atmosphere and gravity. Newton or Einstein (cant remember which) stated that a continuous driving force excelerating a mass in a vacuum will continue to excelerate. So maybe light speed can be overcome.
End of story, now you know the secret of my success! and that I must have some free time on my hands. :-)
Ralph
By Ralph Lortie
Back in 1958 I was attending a navel electronics class involving radar repair, maintenance and operation thereof. We were told that every thing whether what its shape or mass has a resonant frequency. At the time we were studying electronic fields and wave transmission.
This got me to thinking, does the earth have a resonant magnetic field frequency. does a magnet have a set frequency of its emissions related to shape and size. If so then all planets would emit its own magnetic field at it's resonant frequency.
A flying saucer has a variable frequency magnetic field generator. When it want to leave earth it simply dials in earths frequency and matches phase. Thus becoming a like pole,the craft is then repelled from the planet. Once in space it tunes in the selected planet destination, only now it is a matched frequency set at 180 degrees out of phase and is attracted to said planet.
Hovering and steering is accomplished by slight variations in the phase control forcing the ship to be directed right or left of north and south pole gradients.
Where magnetic and or electronic waves travel at the speed of light, so will the saucer once free of atmosphere and gravity. Newton or Einstein (cant remember which) stated that a continuous driving force excelerating a mass in a vacuum will continue to excelerate. So maybe light speed can be overcome.
End of story, now you know the secret of my success! and that I must have some free time on my hands. :-)
Ralph
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>Its the ionic engine concept!<
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>Also, electomagnetic theory shows why that is.<
Do you mean that charged objects have more or less electrons than they did (before charging), and since electrons have mass, they have more or less mass than they did? I'd be surprised if they did experiments were the charge was high enough to notice this, while still low enough that they could tell that it was not the result of the pendulum being (electrostatically) attracted to nearby materials.
>The force I'm talking about does not depend on the current but on the potential.<
That's not true. If you ionize one molecule using one electron, then you can't ionize the next molecule with the same electron, you'll need another. Ionizing more molecules requires more electrons, until finally you've got quite a current coursing through the air about the craft.
>It does quite a lot more then one might think.<
That is true I was thinking only about the ionization and not the subsequent acceleration.
>you know that for a fact?<
*Yes, commercial versions were tried some time ago and it never took off, literally. I just did a search and found this. The first section of italics is the relevant part, being a quote from "Larry Elie, a physicist", who apparently agrees with me.
You said universe, not heaven. If you meant heaven though, then you're right.
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>Also, electomagnetic theory shows why that is.<
Do you mean that charged objects have more or less electrons than they did (before charging), and since electrons have mass, they have more or less mass than they did? I'd be surprised if they did experiments were the charge was high enough to notice this, while still low enough that they could tell that it was not the result of the pendulum being (electrostatically) attracted to nearby materials.
>The force I'm talking about does not depend on the current but on the potential.<
That's not true. If you ionize one molecule using one electron, then you can't ionize the next molecule with the same electron, you'll need another. Ionizing more molecules requires more electrons, until finally you've got quite a current coursing through the air about the craft.
>It does quite a lot more then one might think.<
That is true I was thinking only about the ionization and not the subsequent acceleration.
>you know that for a fact?<
*Yes, commercial versions were tried some time ago and it never took off, literally. I just did a search and found this. The first section of italics is the relevant part, being a quote from "Larry Elie, a physicist", who apparently agrees with me.
>Revelations 12: 7-12<The first ion-aircraft was an unmanned vehicle built by Magor de Seversky in 1964. It lifted a few onces of weight. These larger ones can lift several pounds, but their effeciency is very-very low. Also they trail a wire to a power supply. None has flown on it's own power to date.
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The problem is, to ionize air takes several thousand volts, which isn't a big deal (the coil in your car does that too). But the voltage must also be provided at VERY high currents, perhaps 10,000 times the current of your coil. This is just to lift a few pounds.
You said universe, not heaven. If you meant heaven though, then you're right.
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If anybody reading this thread is interested in trying an experiment to attract UFO's, then they might be interested in an article on my website titled "Attracting and Detecting UFOs". In this article I describe a simple to build radiation reflector array that will return a powerful burst of ground scanning radiation back to any overflying UFOs that will definitely attract the attention of their pilots and which might make them come down to ground level for a closer inspection...(in the article I also give the details of an extremely simple to build UFO detector that will let you know when the UFO is within about two miles straight line distance of your location!).
Ralph...
I've seen your "frequency matching or resonance" explanation for UFO propulsion in various guises over the decades...it has many problems with it. Mainly, it does not eliminate the gravitational and inertial mass of a UFO and its crew and would, therefore, restrict them to travel velocities well below that of light.
IF our extraterrestrial visitors are coming to Earth from nearby star systems, then they would HAVE to have a means of exceeding the velocity of light to do so in "conveniently" short travel times.
I believe, based on my decades long study of the subject, that the builders of these craft have discovered a new form of non-electromagnetic radiation that is generated by equipment aboard the craft and which then renders both the vehicle and its crew completely massless. Once massless, the UFO and its crew can achieve a kind of gravity-free, inertialess flight in a planet's atmosphere. Once in space, the massless craft can then rapidly exceed the velocity of light with even the smallest of sustained thrusts. These thrusts might be provided by a sophisticated form of ion propulsion.
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Ralph...
I've seen your "frequency matching or resonance" explanation for UFO propulsion in various guises over the decades...it has many problems with it. Mainly, it does not eliminate the gravitational and inertial mass of a UFO and its crew and would, therefore, restrict them to travel velocities well below that of light.
IF our extraterrestrial visitors are coming to Earth from nearby star systems, then they would HAVE to have a means of exceeding the velocity of light to do so in "conveniently" short travel times.
I believe, based on my decades long study of the subject, that the builders of these craft have discovered a new form of non-electromagnetic radiation that is generated by equipment aboard the craft and which then renders both the vehicle and its crew completely massless. Once massless, the UFO and its crew can achieve a kind of gravity-free, inertialess flight in a planet's atmosphere. Once in space, the massless craft can then rapidly exceed the velocity of light with even the smallest of sustained thrusts. These thrusts might be provided by a sophisticated form of ion propulsion.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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I've heard that an aluminum foil hat can keep them from reading or controling your mind. Maybe it would be useful to focus your thoughts and attract a UFO. LOL
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http://www.prophetyahweh.funtigo.com/
this site exposes him to be a false prophet. he's a fraud. he uses weather balloons or whatever. i want to kill him. i was thinking it was real after i saw the video that was posted.
this site exposes him to be a false prophet. he's a fraud. he uses weather balloons or whatever. i want to kill him. i was thinking it was real after i saw the video that was posted.
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You want to kill him? How modern day christian of you brother.
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yes i want to kill him. pagans were killed by israelites in the old testament. if any of you are interested, i will try to contact the las vegas channel 13 news show about the link that this guy is a fraud.
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i sent an email to Mike Dello Stritto the reporter who did the news segment. this is the email address and webpage info.
mdellostritto@ktnv.com
http://www.ktnv.com/aboutus/anchors/mdellostritto.asp
"http://www.prophetyahweh.funtigo.com/
the man lied. he already claimed to be able to summon ufo's in 1997! he apparently uses weather balloons or whatever. please do a follow up report that this case has been solved and try to confront this con artist who wants money or whatever." i wrote in the email. i hope other people will also help me to email the journalist against the con artist.
mdellostritto@ktnv.com
http://www.ktnv.com/aboutus/anchors/mdellostritto.asp
"http://www.prophetyahweh.funtigo.com/
the man lied. he already claimed to be able to summon ufo's in 1997! he apparently uses weather balloons or whatever. please do a follow up report that this case has been solved and try to confront this con artist who wants money or whatever." i wrote in the email. i hope other people will also help me to email the journalist against the con artist.