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preoccupied wrote:James Lindgard are you suggesting there might be gay sex with AB Hammer happening? I mean he is in pretty good shape but I don't know if he is in that good of shape. In my opinion you are insulting him by saying he is homosexual. That's inappropriate. This is a friendly forum to make friends at. You sir are so rude.
preoccupied, I don't know that he isn't. It is okay if he is. He said he wanted to discuss Mt 69 and then he changed the subject to his wants. Makes me leery.

edited to add; preoccupied, what AB Hammer does in the privacy of his home is his business and not mine.
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james.lindgard wrote:AB Hammer,
This is a forum for discussing how it is believed Bessler's wheels worked. Your promise to show something at a later date is old. You have used that same post for over 8 years now. Ever promising but showing nothing. I have mentioned to oyvvus that I believe that you have more than one account in here. I will send Scott an email and ask him to check some names and their i.p. addresses against yours. After all, since when do you give someone a green dot for having a working perpetual wheel that works for 5 minutes but then quits running ? If a perpetual motion machine rotates 2 times on it's own power, it will keep rotating. And yet you supported FCDriver and his having a working perpetual motion machine without a wheel having ever been shown. And then you and Jim_Mich ask Scott to ban me for building open source. Kind of shows you have a hidden agenda.
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You are so twisted with lies. You don't get banned for building. You get banned for lies, harassment of others, and breaking rules with all your different sign ins.

As for me not showing wheels? LMAO I have shown around 30 finished wheels and around 40 designs in public, community buzz, and my private part of this forum that you of course are not allowed in. For you are the reason I got one.

As for promoting Bessler, You keep trying to show the MTs will work when they are well known not to work. IMHO that is not supporting Bessler. But when you start to build with mix parts of different MTs you are and only then going in a better direction.

One other thing

Stop accusing me of doing what you have done. I follow the rules.
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james.lindgard wrote:AB Hammer,
I am sorry but I do not care to post with private builders.
James Lingaard's earlier post
james.lindgard wrote:preoccupied, I don't know that he isn't. It is okay if he is. He said he wanted to discuss Mt 69 and then he changed the subject to his wants. Makes me leery.

edited to add; preoccupied, what AB Hammer does in the privacy of his home is his business and not mine.
In red James Lingaard's last post in red the rest is total BS insinuation.


The fluid wheels like MT69 have to transfer extremely fast. At 60 RPM, you only have less than 1 second for transfer per turn, for you are transferring only a part of the action to transfer. 30 RPM you have only a little over a second. Then what bubbles may occur due to back and forth actions. Bessler would have use quick silver to even have a chance with superior weight value of the quick silver not having to transfer as much.
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Fluid wheels? Piss on them.
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re: Mt 69

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AB Hammer,
This is funny. On March 13th, 2009, I was in the doctors office being diagnosed with cancer. at the same time, you were posting a quote from Scott Ellis. You did not provide a source to verify his quote with.
In the quote you provided, you claim that Scott Ellis told me that using my real name to post with is considered a sock puppet account as I am trying to hide or conceal something.
And in that same post, you say I am attacking you. I think you do receive preferential treatment because you misrepresent your injuries.
And if people read reply #29 by you in the same thread, I think it's on the 2nd page, you tell me to quit studying Mt's 24 and 25 and to try reaction tests. At the same time, you know that in 2008 that I did try many reaction tests.
And 7 years later, I know how Bessler's wheels worked and you're still looking for a reason why I should do what you want. But the reason I don't like you is because of how much you attacked me for using math.
After all, you did encourage other people to flame me. And this is why I have Bessler's wheel and you don't. I was willing to work at it and was willing to use math to help me understand how Bessler did it. All you have is personal attacks and lies. I am letting Scott Ellis know that you created a quote that you attributed to him so you could use it to slander me.
And as I've let oyvvus know, I wouldn't be surprised if you have more than one account in here. I think it is something that Scott Ellis needs to look at. If so, then it's up to Scott what he wants to do with you.

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James,

If you are referring to MT 69 as a reference, then saying you know how Bessler s wheels worked, sir, you are misrepresenting the truth.

MT 69 doesn't even come close to the description Bessler gave.

No one drawing has enough info in them to figure out what he did.

None of the drawings have the prime mover in them.
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Clyde,
What would allow Mt 69 to work is how the levers perform work and then conserve momentum. There might be a simple way to use levers.
With the description Bessler gave;
5. “Alternately gravitating to the centre and climbing back up again." AP 291
alternately (adj.) occurring by turns; succeeding each other; one and then the other; to exchange places

This might describe the levers motion.

2. “My 'principle of excess weight’, these weights are themselves the PM device, the 'essential constituent parts' which must of necessity continue to exercise their motive force so long as they keep away from the centre of gravity.� DT 190 John Collins/Mike Senior translation of DT pp. 20-21

It might be that as long as the water keeps getting pumped to the top, it will stay away from the center of gravity. And Mt 69 shows 2 weights (bellows).

edited to add;
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5312

and this, all quotes are from the same thread.

Cross-bar
cross-bar (noun) a structural member that crosses other elements; two perpendular beams crossing at the axis; lazy tongs
1.a “If I arrange to have just one cross-bar in my machine, it revolves very slowly, just as if it can hardly turn itself at all, but, on the contrary, when I arrange several bars, pulleys and weights, the machine can revolve much faster." AP 340 Collins translation

Clyde, what Bessler may have done is he may have at first used pipes and then used the rim instead. I have been told by someone in Germany that he said he used pipes or tubes. Maybe someone knows about Bessler having said that and can post it ?
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Post by Clyde »

James,

How are you feeling today?

I am pretty good myself.

I think out of everyone here that I have read so far, you are one of the most interested and active at trying to find a solution. But this forum is distracting you.

To me M69 is not worth looking at.
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Re: re: Mt 69

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james.lindgard wrote:AB Hammer,
This is funny. On March 13th, 2009, I was in the doctors office being diagnosed with cancer. at the same time, you were posting a quote from Scott Ellis. You did not provide a source to verify his quote with.
In the quote you provided, you claim that Scott Ellis told me that using my real name to post with is considered a sock puppet account as I am trying to hide or conceal something.
And in that same post, you say I am attacking you. I think you do receive preferential treatment because you misrepresent your injuries.
And if people read reply #29 by you in the same thread, I think it's on the 2nd page, you tell me to quit studying Mt's 24 and 25 and to try reaction tests. At the same time, you know that in 2008 that I did try many reaction tests.
And 7 years later, I know how Bessler's wheels worked and you're still looking for a reason why I should do what you want. But the reason I don't like you is because of how much you attacked me for using math.
After all, you did encourage other people to flame me. And this is why I have Bessler's wheel and you don't. I was willing to work at it and was willing to use math to help me understand how Bessler did it. All you have is personal attacks and lies. I am letting Scott Ellis know that you created a quote that you attributed to him so you could use it to slander me.
And as I've let oyvvus know, I wouldn't be surprised if you have more than one account in here. I think it is something that Scott Ellis needs to look at. If so, then it's up to Scott what he wants to do with you.

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Lindgaard

More twisting BS again? Quit wasting my time with your twisting lies.
( Taking some truth and inserting lies to change the story to mean something else )

PS You don't have nor are you close to having Bessler's wheel. So quit lying about it.
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re: Mt 69

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http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... &start=105
From Policy Change -- Sockpuppets & Reputation System page 8

james.lindgard wrote:This is funny because I have shown Scott where AB Hammer attributed a quote to Scott in another forum. No source was given and do believe the quote by Scott was entirely fictitious.
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... d&start=75

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:02 am ( 10th post down the page )

Stop filling the forum up with your lies.
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

So With out a dream, there is no vision.

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AB Hammer,
In 3 different threads you posted >> Stop filling the forum up with your lies. <<
In 2 different threads, I posted different drawings of Bessler's and some of his clues with links to the source.
And this is why I get banned. It's funny really. You, rlortie and Jim_Mich are all bored retirees. You have no
need to see a working wheel because all 3 of you are enjoying your retirements. I think that's closer to the truth.
Still, Scott might not like you attributing fictitious clues to him.
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re: Mt 69

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james.lindgard wrote:AB Hammer,
In 3 different threads you posted >> Stop filling the forum up with your lies. <<
In 2 different threads, I posted different drawings of Bessler's and some of his clues with links to the source.
And this is why I get banned. It's funny really. You, rlortie and Jim_Mich are all bored retirees. You have no
need to see a working wheel because all 3 of you are enjoying your retirements. I think that's closer to the truth.
Still, Scott might not like you attributing fictitious clues to him.

I proved the quote of Scott's and you Lindgaard still push your fraudulent talk. totally busted again
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

So With out a dream, there is no vision.

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