Has anybody looked at this before?
I've replicated Syed Ali's results in algodoo as well.
his wheel is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXvNp8QRC0&t=107s
my replication:
but when the weight is placed on the outside of the rim instead, then it won't run.
algodoo scene files:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fi ... 7586628610
Anybody care to make a quick real life mock up? Or is it pretty much just an error with the Algodoo physics engine?
algodoo runner Ali_GavWee
Moderator: scott
re: algodoo runner Ali_GavWee
I think that program is very, very interesting, bunjow.
It is essentially the same as what Sjack Abeling has achieved.
The most interesting bit is the small wheel (cog) being restrained by the horizontal arm - thus giving it potentially earth fixity
and for all practical purposes humongously large iM cog-mass (inertial mass) in the horizontal direction.
By contrast the inertia of the large wheel, iM wheel-mass is much smaller.
If the cog is allowed to fall down the wheel and the cog anchorage is free to move vertically up and down whilst maintaining its horizontal aspect
then the cog will exert a horizontal force on the wheel projecting it in the horizontal direction.
In other words it will do work on the wheel.
Now the mooie thing about this arrangement is:
in falling from 3 o'clock to 5.30 o'clock, say.
the cog loses no nM cog-mass energy (Newtonian gravitation mass energy)
and can elastically rebound to its original height for the cycle to be
repeated.
So horizontal energy is obtained with no loss of vertical energy.
This is the secret of Abeling's beautiful energy.
Forget about the whole wheel, just use the section from 3 o'clock to 6 o'clock and mount it on rails.
The wheel sector can be returned to its start position by a long horizontal coil spring so that it's ready for the cog when it reaches the zenith.
The cycle is the repeated.
Some energy has to be bled off and fed back to the cog to allow for losses just as with the Abeling device.
It is essentially the same as what Sjack Abeling has achieved.
The most interesting bit is the small wheel (cog) being restrained by the horizontal arm - thus giving it potentially earth fixity
and for all practical purposes humongously large iM cog-mass (inertial mass) in the horizontal direction.
By contrast the inertia of the large wheel, iM wheel-mass is much smaller.
If the cog is allowed to fall down the wheel and the cog anchorage is free to move vertically up and down whilst maintaining its horizontal aspect
then the cog will exert a horizontal force on the wheel projecting it in the horizontal direction.
In other words it will do work on the wheel.
Now the mooie thing about this arrangement is:
in falling from 3 o'clock to 5.30 o'clock, say.
the cog loses no nM cog-mass energy (Newtonian gravitation mass energy)
and can elastically rebound to its original height for the cycle to be
repeated.
So horizontal energy is obtained with no loss of vertical energy.
This is the secret of Abeling's beautiful energy.
Forget about the whole wheel, just use the section from 3 o'clock to 6 o'clock and mount it on rails.
The wheel sector can be returned to its start position by a long horizontal coil spring so that it's ready for the cog when it reaches the zenith.
The cycle is the repeated.
Some energy has to be bled off and fed back to the cog to allow for losses just as with the Abeling device.
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re: algodoo runner Ali_GavWee
This must be the principle underlying Finsrud's Perpetuum Mobile except that in the case of the Finsrud the slope drives the weight instead of the weight driving the slope. The large hidden spring or pendulum enables the slope to bounce up and down and so conserve nM gravity mass energy of the slope.
I suppose the magnets must be there to provide feedback from the ball weight energy by bleeding off some of the iM inertia mass energy to assist slope bounce and overcome the air resistance losses.
I wonder if Finsrud realises why his device works. Probably not.
I suppose the magnets must be there to provide feedback from the ball weight energy by bleeding off some of the iM inertia mass energy to assist slope bounce and overcome the air resistance losses.
I wonder if Finsrud realises why his device works. Probably not.
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re: algodoo runner Ali_GavWee
I thought this account of the Finsrud was rather amusing.
Of course it's not so much a PM device as an engine. Just like all those other engines which work on Ersatz gravity, Bessler, Keenie,'Bruce's uncle, Abeling and many others no doubt which will come out of the woodwork once the general principle has been widely under.
Of course it's not so much a PM device as an engine. Just like all those other engines which work on Ersatz gravity, Bessler, Keenie,'Bruce's uncle, Abeling and many others no doubt which will come out of the woodwork once the general principle has been widely under.
Transcript of interview with Reidar Finsrud
(from Norwegian TV Channel 2)
Interviewer :
"If the artist and jack-of-all-trades Reidar Finsrud is right he has
succeeded in making a machine that man has been trying to make for a
thousand years; the Perpetuum Mobile. In plain English, an eternally
operating machine. A machine that just keeps on going without external
influence of any kind."
"The painter, graphic artist and sculptor Reidar Finsrud has used 12 years
making one of our history's most mythical devices: the Perpetuum Mobile."
R.F:
"I have spoken to some people saying 'nonsense, all rubbish' and then come
down here to visit me. Then, after they have watched it operate for awhile,
their attitude changes completely. They leave here happy and content."
Interviewer :
"In addition to visitors being pleased when watching the machine in the
glass mount, some are quite spellbound by this original, unusual work of
art."
R.F:
"I have had people in here talking about religion, I have had people saying
'That's it! Yes of course, that's it! Some who were standing here watching
it would go 'yes of course! You have got it right!' And I have had others
who just stand there. I have had people standing for over an hour just
watching and watching and watching. This is of course very exciting for me,
but it makes me a little bit nervous, but..... Then I start thinking: Is
he going to try and stop it again using telekinesis or something."
Interviewer :
"The first few nights he did not get much sleep, but after almost 2 weeks
the 'dad' feels the machine is ready to live its own life."
R.F:
"And now I have stopped watching over it. I don't feel like it is a sick
child any more. I feel confident it will keep on going in the future."
Update on inventors address: Finsrud (just like his name),
just outside OSLO, Norway
The steel ball: It's weight is more like 2 pounds. Not 20 Pounds.
Placement of the timing slot: The slot with the flexible steel wire is placed
just in front of the horse-magnet.
The revolution time: 4.2 seconds to circle the track.
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