IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay.
Regards,
George
Regards,
George
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re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi George1,
I will help you after I have finished my own constructions.
So my mind is occupied in the moment to handle it.
I will help you after I have finished my own constructions.
So my mind is occupied in the moment to handle it.
Best regards
Georg
Georg
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
(1) Present day advancements permit creation of extraordinary surfaces and additionally ointments which can diminish standard grinding ordinarily.
(2) In the event that you supplant sliding rubbing with moving grating, at that point erosion will be promptly diminished a huge number of times. (Moving contact is in converse extent to the range of the moves/wheels. On the off chance that you increment the wheel's span n times, at that point grating will be diminished n times individually.)
(3) The blue ball and the crisscross channel could be made of perpetual magnets in this way framing a for all intents and purposes frictionless (no-contact) slide. (There are several comparative gadgets in YouTube and in Web, by and large.)
(4) Truly, you are completely right that it is difficult to have zero rubbing under any conditions. Yet, it is AN Aphorism of hypothetical and connected mechanics that in the event that grating is accepted unimportant, at that point this implies contact is so (little enough, yet not equivalent to zero!) that it doesn't for all intents and purposes impact the correct activity of a specific genuine component/mechanical framework/mechanical procedure. Any master in the field of hypothetical and connected mechanics knows about the previously mentioned Maxim and will never contend about its legitimacy.
(5) The equivalent for the inactivity powers. The littler the blue ball's mass, the littler the latency powers. The blue ball's mass could be made so (little enough, however not equivalent to zero!) that it would not for all intents and purposes impact the correct task of the framework. (Kindly take a gander at past thing 4 and just supplant "rubbing" with "inactivity powers".
(6) Any smart thought for a waterproof paper pack for a conceivable cash stream is welcome. By and large, we are open for any sort of joint effort of common advantage.
(2) In the event that you supplant sliding rubbing with moving grating, at that point erosion will be promptly diminished a huge number of times. (Moving contact is in converse extent to the range of the moves/wheels. On the off chance that you increment the wheel's span n times, at that point grating will be diminished n times individually.)
(3) The blue ball and the crisscross channel could be made of perpetual magnets in this way framing a for all intents and purposes frictionless (no-contact) slide. (There are several comparative gadgets in YouTube and in Web, by and large.)
(4) Truly, you are completely right that it is difficult to have zero rubbing under any conditions. Yet, it is AN Aphorism of hypothetical and connected mechanics that in the event that grating is accepted unimportant, at that point this implies contact is so (little enough, yet not equivalent to zero!) that it doesn't for all intents and purposes impact the correct activity of a specific genuine component/mechanical framework/mechanical procedure. Any master in the field of hypothetical and connected mechanics knows about the previously mentioned Maxim and will never contend about its legitimacy.
(5) The equivalent for the inactivity powers. The littler the blue ball's mass, the littler the latency powers. The blue ball's mass could be made so (little enough, however not equivalent to zero!) that it would not for all intents and purposes impact the correct task of the framework. (Kindly take a gander at past thing 4 and just supplant "rubbing" with "inactivity powers".
(6) Any smart thought for a waterproof paper pack for a conceivable cash stream is welcome. By and large, we are open for any sort of joint effort of common advantage.
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
To gita.
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Hi gita,
Thank you for your reply.
Please give me some time to consider carefully your post.
I will write to you in the nearest future.
Regards,
George
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Hi gita,
Thank you for your reply.
Please give me some time to consider carefully your post.
I will write to you in the nearest future.
Regards,
George
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
To Georg Kunstler
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Hi Georg,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
1) First of all thank you very much for your promise to help me after finishing your own constructions. Much obliged!
2) Your website shows that your devices have quite non-standard and original design. But would you be so polite to add an English language version? Because no member of our team speaks German or French.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
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Hi Georg,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
1) First of all thank you very much for your promise to help me after finishing your own constructions. Much obliged!
2) Your website shows that your devices have quite non-standard and original design. But would you be so polite to add an English language version? Because no member of our team speaks German or French.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi gita,
Let us start doing the things together. Any suggestion about what to be our first cooperative step? (Georg Kunstler also promises to join us after finishing his job.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
Let us start doing the things together. Any suggestion about what to be our first cooperative step? (Georg Kunstler also promises to join us after finishing his job.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Ok. I am stopping. Please excuse me.
George
George
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
To Georg Kunstler
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Hi Georg,
Where did you disappear, my friend? You promised to help after finishing your own constructions. Please send to me a short message in order to know what happens.
Regards,
George
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Hi Georg,
Where did you disappear, my friend? You promised to help after finishing your own constructions. Please send to me a short message in order to know what happens.
Regards,
George
re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHI
Hi guys,
Let us focus again on the zigzag design as described in the first post of this topic.
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1) What will happen if:
a) the mass of the blue component is SMALLER than the mass of the black component;
b) the mass of the blue component is EQUAL to the mass of the black component;
c) the mass of the blue component is BIGGER than the mass of the black component.
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2) And one modification of the main concept.
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Let us assume that the black component is fixed motionless somewhere to some obstacle and is not able to move. In this case it is evident that after entering the zigzag channel section the blue component will decelerate. What will be the value of this deceleration d and how it will depend on the number of the zigzags? After how many zigzags for example the velocity of the blue component will be 3/4 its initial velocity Vo? Or, let's say, 1/2?
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And one more question. It is evident that if the blue component enters the zigzag channel section, then the black component exerts force Fc on the obstacle, which does not allow the black component's linear motion. It is evident that the direction of Fc coincides with the direction of Vo. What will be the mean value of Fc for example? Or its maximum and minimum?
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So can somebody calculate the values of the deceleration d and of the force Fc for all of us in this forum? It is evident that both d and Fc are bigger than zero ( d > 0 and Fc > 0), but it will be a nice job if some formulas are derived.
(Note. Friction is negligible and the shape of the zigzag channel could be for example an ordinary standard sinusoid. (Or any other curve, if more convenient.))
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Looking forward to your answers.
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George
Let us focus again on the zigzag design as described in the first post of this topic.
-----------------------------------
1) What will happen if:
a) the mass of the blue component is SMALLER than the mass of the black component;
b) the mass of the blue component is EQUAL to the mass of the black component;
c) the mass of the blue component is BIGGER than the mass of the black component.
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2) And one modification of the main concept.
-----------------------------------
Let us assume that the black component is fixed motionless somewhere to some obstacle and is not able to move. In this case it is evident that after entering the zigzag channel section the blue component will decelerate. What will be the value of this deceleration d and how it will depend on the number of the zigzags? After how many zigzags for example the velocity of the blue component will be 3/4 its initial velocity Vo? Or, let's say, 1/2?
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And one more question. It is evident that if the blue component enters the zigzag channel section, then the black component exerts force Fc on the obstacle, which does not allow the black component's linear motion. It is evident that the direction of Fc coincides with the direction of Vo. What will be the mean value of Fc for example? Or its maximum and minimum?
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So can somebody calculate the values of the deceleration d and of the force Fc for all of us in this forum? It is evident that both d and Fc are bigger than zero ( d > 0 and Fc > 0), but it will be a nice job if some formulas are derived.
(Note. Friction is negligible and the shape of the zigzag channel could be for example an ordinary standard sinusoid. (Or any other curve, if more convenient.))
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Looking forward to your answers.
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George