The secret password
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re: The secret password
Somehow I missed Odd Harald being spelled on the diagonal... I must have been looking too closely on the diagonals coming from the man's hands.
Here are my attempts at finding the square and compass. They are outlined in yellow. The simplest one being constructed from the house on the left, extending the lines from the window.
The one on the right can be found by extending already existing lines. Oystein you may say that I forced this one! :)
Regards
Here are my attempts at finding the square and compass. They are outlined in yellow. The simplest one being constructed from the house on the left, extending the lines from the window.
The one on the right can be found by extending already existing lines. Oystein you may say that I forced this one! :)
Regards
re: The secret password
You discovered the part of "Meno" (Yellow) from the arm the the door/entrance "roof".
But you didn't really use it..
I still think this would not be accepted as proof of my intention..
What about all the letters and symbols above?
But you didn't really use it..
I still think this would not be accepted as proof of my intention..
What about all the letters and symbols above?
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re: The secret password
Oystein,
The capital V in Velkommen (that shouldn't be capitalized) above the middle of the Meno 'points' to the upper middle of the Meno. V = 5 in roman numerals so the V also signifies the 5 X's that were used to create the Meno on the right. 4 smaller X's in each quarter plus the large X that takes up the full square.
Of course another Meno can be constructed in the house on the left using the window frame as a guide. When we add the 5 X's from each Meno together we get our original equation which is 10 = X, since there are 10 X's total.
This picture could also be read as from left to right as "55", since each Meno has 5 X's.
I thought I have been right before but this time I am fully expecting you to tell me I am missing something :)
Best Regards
The capital V in Velkommen (that shouldn't be capitalized) above the middle of the Meno 'points' to the upper middle of the Meno. V = 5 in roman numerals so the V also signifies the 5 X's that were used to create the Meno on the right. 4 smaller X's in each quarter plus the large X that takes up the full square.
Of course another Meno can be constructed in the house on the left using the window frame as a guide. When we add the 5 X's from each Meno together we get our original equation which is 10 = X, since there are 10 X's total.
This picture could also be read as from left to right as "55", since each Meno has 5 X's.
I thought I have been right before but this time I am fully expecting you to tell me I am missing something :)
Best Regards
re: The secret password
The man who guides the geometry, even though he was drawn as a stick figure, was drawn to show 5 fingers on each hand... or 55. Further confirms what was found in the attached picture.
Also, maybe it wasn't a coincidence that Bessler chose MT45 as one of the places to hide his Meno. A Meno has 4 or 5 X's depending on how you look at it.
Also, maybe it wasn't a coincidence that Bessler chose MT45 as one of the places to hide his Meno. A Meno has 4 or 5 X's depending on how you look at it.
re: The secret password
I agree that the Meno is the known base figure, yes. That was my intention. (5 as a ref. to Meno is new to me. And was not my intention) Though I would assume "22" would be a metaphor for the Meno.. as in a 2x2 square. As in MT 22....
Then the (at that time unknown geometric figure) still is unexplored..
Best
ØR
Then the (at that time unknown geometric figure) still is unexplored..
Best
ØR
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re: The secret password
My attempt for the night...
The man's left leg guides one side of the compass, while the other side fits nicely with the house number box.
The man's left leg guides one side of the compass, while the other side fits nicely with the house number box.
re: The secret password
Nice try.
I don't think that would give us new insight by utterly certain proof/confirmations of an ancient method used by poets and printers.
I think you should look for..let's say 5 things or so, all lining up perfectly to prove the same thing, just as the great printers did in some of the worlds most known prints.. (But already dismissed by ALL scholars without seeing or seeking the proof or being able to discover it, by not being taught it.) In this way we would be utterly certain the intention was the original placed by the poet and/or the printer and not forced on. Your compass would still not convince them.
The Meno is true though.
I don't think that would give us new insight by utterly certain proof/confirmations of an ancient method used by poets and printers.
I think you should look for..let's say 5 things or so, all lining up perfectly to prove the same thing, just as the great printers did in some of the worlds most known prints.. (But already dismissed by ALL scholars without seeing or seeking the proof or being able to discover it, by not being taught it.) In this way we would be utterly certain the intention was the original placed by the poet and/or the printer and not forced on. Your compass would still not convince them.
The Meno is true though.
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Here is a square and compass that appears to be of the correct proportions ie. 6 X 7. Each point of it has already been created by the construction of the Meno. One of these points is being "pointed" at the by the V in Velkommen. It explains the positioning of the "house number" sign, and why it's center does not align with the sides/roof of the house.
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6:7 is just bull.. to put you on the wrong track.. ;) But you got a "greenie" though ;)
No, your square and compass seriously wouldn't lead us to any revolutionary documentation and proof of a historical code, nor a secret historical formula.
Let's have a look at how RC insiders attribute this first step of the square and compass to Shakespeare..
Ben Johnson writes a poem about a play writer that he think is an ape. Not a smart guy, Buying and selling plays.. putting his name on other peoples work..
Then mr. William Dugdale drawing of Shakespeares Bust from 1649 is attached. In the picture we find a poet with Ape-like arms, and a Ape head by the side of his rather small and insignificant head!
Ben Johnson knows a poet-Ape. Ben Johnson knows Shakespeare, and Ben Johnson writes the "To The Reader poem" of Shakespeares 1st folio.
It's like Shakespeare, or at least some "Poet-Ape" didn't know that he was selling and promoting plays created by a group of more sophisticated poets, philosophers and scientists..a group named "RC". This group seems to apply a code into the plays, and finally a code in the physical print of the plays, the Bust and the memorial plates after his death..
Then this code seems to be applied by Bessler. If so, he was an "RC" too..
No, your square and compass seriously wouldn't lead us to any revolutionary documentation and proof of a historical code, nor a secret historical formula.
Let's have a look at how RC insiders attribute this first step of the square and compass to Shakespeare..
Ben Johnson writes a poem about a play writer that he think is an ape. Not a smart guy, Buying and selling plays.. putting his name on other peoples work..
Then mr. William Dugdale drawing of Shakespeares Bust from 1649 is attached. In the picture we find a poet with Ape-like arms, and a Ape head by the side of his rather small and insignificant head!
Ben Johnson knows a poet-Ape. Ben Johnson knows Shakespeare, and Ben Johnson writes the "To The Reader poem" of Shakespeares 1st folio.
It's like Shakespeare, or at least some "Poet-Ape" didn't know that he was selling and promoting plays created by a group of more sophisticated poets, philosophers and scientists..a group named "RC". This group seems to apply a code into the plays, and finally a code in the physical print of the plays, the Bust and the memorial plates after his death..
Then this code seems to be applied by Bessler. If so, he was an "RC" too..
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re: The secret password
Oystein,
I was not confident that my last effort was correct but it was all I could find at the time. I had heard of the 6:7 ratio from Petter Amundsen's work.
I think this picture may be what you are looking for. It is actually simpler than I was expecting but it does seem to take into account the 2 unnecessary slashes in the upper writing. I had thought they were suspicious as soon as I saw this picture but I could not find out how to use them. The 2 slashes don't seem to line up perfectly with each other either but I guess it is close enough that I could see the intention. I also like how one side of the compass is guided by the man's fingers.
When the other side of the compass is extended up they go through the letters IVA which seem to be set slightly lower than the rest of the top line. I may be looking too hard into this though.
Regards
I was not confident that my last effort was correct but it was all I could find at the time. I had heard of the 6:7 ratio from Petter Amundsen's work.
I think this picture may be what you are looking for. It is actually simpler than I was expecting but it does seem to take into account the 2 unnecessary slashes in the upper writing. I had thought they were suspicious as soon as I saw this picture but I could not find out how to use them. The 2 slashes don't seem to line up perfectly with each other either but I guess it is close enough that I could see the intention. I also like how one side of the compass is guided by the man's fingers.
When the other side of the compass is extended up they go through the letters IVA which seem to be set slightly lower than the rest of the top line. I may be looking too hard into this though.
Regards
re: The secret password
This is correct !! Not all of Petter Amundsens's conclusions is correct. The square and compass ratio is not found elsewhere..and his "treasure" is not proven. But his Pythagorean, Gematric and Acrostic methods that he learned through his Masonry is mostly correct. Also his findings in Shakespeare. But he misses the secret the treasure that is there.. I claim this is The Philosophers Stone..and the Holy Grail. The Masonic/philosophic versions of the words.
The slashes is definitive, but the V is the most evident. it supports the whole compass..
The following letters and things was meant to support the compass line:
N
\
\
y
V
---------------
The Meno
SQUARE &
The corner of the foot
----------------------
Making totally 7 points of assuming you started wondering about the wrong "91" and the capital V.
The slashes is definitive, but the V is the most evident. it supports the whole compass..
The following letters and things was meant to support the compass line:
N
\
\
y
V
---------------
The Meno
SQUARE &
The corner of the foot
----------------------
Making totally 7 points of assuming you started wondering about the wrong "91" and the capital V.
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re: The secret password
Oystein, thank you for providing this very interesting riddle. I should have seen the solution much earlier but I only did after your help.
Is the way you have shown in your drawing the "proper" way of constructing the square and compass? Meaning that it should be constructed using a square or meno to guide the compass, extending a line from each bottom corner to the top middle? Or maybe the exact dimensions of the symbol do not matter?
Also, more importantly, do you have any other codes that I can solve?
Is the way you have shown in your drawing the "proper" way of constructing the square and compass? Meaning that it should be constructed using a square or meno to guide the compass, extending a line from each bottom corner to the top middle? Or maybe the exact dimensions of the symbol do not matter?
Also, more importantly, do you have any other codes that I can solve?
re: The secret password
Actually I spent several years before I started to realize the truth about the square and compass. Because what should it matter how it is constructed..it is still a square and compass....or?Is the way you have shown in your drawing the "proper" way of constructing the square and compass? Meaning that it should be constructed using a square or Meno to guide the compass, extending a line from each bottom corner to the top middle? Or maybe the exact dimensions of the symbol do not matter?
Also, more importantly, do you have any other codes that I can solve?
Then I started to understand them seriously or literally and accurate, like a decoding instrument.
Why was different hights/and proportions chosen, and why always the "meno" like square at the bottom..
I arrived at a conclusion from analyzing many old paintings and Busts together with the Shakespeare 1st folio.
The square and compass has a geometric start, like this one. Often seen together with a circle.. i then discovered this circle could represent the Earth (G as i Gaia), by analyzing masonic logos. Then one led to another and I arrived at a complete ancient formula where the tallest square and compass fits, and it matches and proves that of the Philosophers Stone, the one in the dollar bill.. So we first find square and compass like this, but ut is only a geometric tool to find the real square and compass.. that only serves the purpose of proving a formula..
The common method is that the "Meno" of plato...as a part of a checkerboard (as seen in masonry) is how we find the dots to connect the geometric figure.. Such a checkerboard-grid must have been used by printers and in paintings etc. to establish the secret symbol and find out where all the letters or figures should be placed.
Finally, when you draw these lines from dot to dot, another "new" (totally undocumented) method of decoding of letters may occur. I discovered and have documented that. Some letters can change by being touched by a line. A letter changing, will change the whole word. Then the meaning of the whole line. A line can also split a word, so one word becomes two with a totally new meaning.. A line can also differ or make some words or group of words stand out.. like the last words of several lines..makes up a whole new sentence..
This is why it's proper of Masons to say that The square and compass is a key..that will unlock something..
A simple example from Shakespeare: Boatswain, meaning a worker on a boat.. When split by the correct symbol and geometry it can say Boats/wain.
Bootes and Wain are two neighboring constellations.. it is also a forgotten method, to locate a third constellation.. (This is the secret constellation in question). So a star-map is drawn. NOT that of Petter Amundsen, bur one that is true to and proves the Philosophers Stone.
Some methods used to hide geometric lines(by the most prominent men in history) has gotten so popular that is has gotten their own symbols. Like one symbol used as masonic jewelry is in reality just a decoding method used in the worlds most known paintings and books. It seems just that cool to be one of the few in the world that knows..what art really is. What it really say. This is the real art of real philosophers and scientists.. not just a poem or a smiling woman..or a Jesvs drawn in a special way. It's simply masonry..
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