The moving of the axis?

[silent]

I was browsing around the site here and researching clues and on one of John's pages, he has this quote from Bessler: "Unlike all other automata, such as clocks or springs, or other hanging weights which require winding up, or whose duration depends on the chain which attaches them, these weights, on the contrary, are the essential parts, and constitute the perpetual motion itself; since from them is received the universal movement which they must exercise so long as they remain out of the centre of gravity; and when they come to be placed together, and so arranged one against another that they can never obtain equilibrium, or the punctum quietus which they unceasingly seek in their wonderfully speedy flight, one or other of them must apply its weight at right angles to the axis, which in its turn must also move."
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I was focused on that very last part where it says, "...one or other of them must apply its weight at right angles to the axis, which in its turn must also move."

Hold it right there. I wondered how I could have missed this or if I'm just digging in too deep. When Bessler said, "which in ITS turn must also move." Is he actually talking about the "axis" when he uses the word "ITS?"

If that's the case, could it read like this: "...one or other of them must apply its weight at right angles to the axis, which in turn the axis must also move."

Could it be that the axis is being shifted by weights? When an axle moves, we generally say it rotates, but if the axis is being shifted somehow, then the wheel itself could be totally balanced, but the axis is somehow moved or leveraged by the falling weights.

Just yet another thought which is an opinion.

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[Fletcher]

I think you'd have to look at the original German word for "move". Move is the translators interpretation of that word.

You are right in that most of us familiar with discussing wheels and axles would probably say rotate. But we might also say move.

Occam's Razor might suggest that move was just an alternate word for rotate, imo.

[Robinhood46]

I remember reading a long explaination, from a very religious or spirituel person, who had some "interesting" thoughts on PM.
He went into a lot of detail of his thoughts that he believed Bessler had invented some sort of special bearing. I think the bearing he was refering to was doing what you are suggesting, somehow shifting the pivot point.

[daxwc]

Here is an idea I had a long time ago, but never dug much deeper. Shouldn’t be too much to figure out the math. So the concept was jumping fulcrums like a baton. Eight moveable spokes on a slide through axle with a rim of 8 levers. Simple; maybe it will spark an idea for somebody and they will let me lick boots at the front door of their conglomerate.

[Art]

Quote ..".. maybe it will spark an idea for somebody and they will let me lick boots at the front door of their conglomerate."

---- Do You do Sandals ?


I like That ! ---- No the drawing I mean !


Its sort of like a "Covid 19 Bessler Wheel Stimulous ! "

[agor95]

It's nice to see a new idea that no one has looked at before :)

Note. A US drug manufacturer spent 5 years looking for 'The Bushmen
of the Kalahari'. They have prior ownership of an active drug to reduce hunger pains.
The US drug company could not find them unit a spokesman for the people
appeared on the BBC in London; wearing borrowed cloths?

Another US Drug company tried to patent the active chemical found in the oil
of the 'neem tree'. There argument was no prior ownership was found in any
scientific literature.

The counter argument, it was and the scientific literature is over 2,000 year old.

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