IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?

[George1]

To ME.
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And one more as if clearer example.
1) Please look at the link https://ssddproblems.com/a-rectangle-ma ... es-part-2/
2) Please look at the rectangle ABCD. The straight line (the segment) MN divides the area of the rectangle into two equal parts.
3) The rectangle is the screen, in which takes place the animation.
4) The line (segment) MN is the straight line on which move the geometric center of the red block and the geometric center of the cube.
5) The line (segment) MN and the rectangle form one inited whole, that is, the rectangle and the line (segment) MN do not move relative to one another.
6) The line (segment) MN is the axis of symmetry of the contracting spring.
7) The motions of all other bodies are adjusted accordingly.
Seems to be clear now, doesn't it?
Looking forward to your answer.

[George1]

The second post removed some small error from the first post. So please read the second post.

[ME]

I tired and it confuses even more... Therefore I'm still bound to make my own interpretation... (soon).

[George1]

To ME.
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1) I see. You understand very well what I mean but you simply imitate deliberately lack of understanding of obvious things. Because if you do the animation as I want, then everybody here will see that your interpretation is wrong and that our interpretation is correct.
2) I will not disturb you any more for doing this animation. You are free to support your own opinion and we (our team) are free to support our own opinions. But I am strongly disappointed by you, ME. Nothing personal. Only an ascertainment.
Have a nice day and be happy.

[George1]

To all other members of this forum who do not share the point of view of Tarsier79 and ME.
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Any questions, recommendations, opinions?
Looking forward to your answer.

[ME]

I see. You understand very well what I mean but you simply imitate deliberately lack of understanding of obvious things.

Sorry, but I really don't see how a comparison of a rectangle with an inclined-plane problem should clear things up.

Be patient, that simulation will come eventually... but please, make your own if you want.

[Fletcher]

@ all .. young George could clear this up very quickly.

By posting up HIS drawing, as HE promised earlier in the thread.

He does not and continues to talk at cross purposes, as tho it is ME's and Tarsier's job to provide a picture or sim explanation of what George postulates. So that he can then say they got this or that wrong as he continues to do in this thread.

So far both ME and Tarsier have shown much more patience than I would have.

[George1]

To Fletcher.
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I am not a top expert in computer animation as ME is.

[George1]

New idea. New suggestion.:)
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ONLY TWO SIMPLE IDENTICAL BODIES.
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1) Two identical homogeneous red blocks of one and same masses and inertia moments.
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2) The two blocks slide relative one to other without losing contact.
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3) The contracting spring connects the geometric centers of the two identical red blocks.
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4) Under the influence of the contracting spring will happen 3 simultaneous events.
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4-1) The distance between the two geometric centers will decrease.
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4-2) Each of the two identical red blocks will rotate at one and same angle γ.
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4-3) The straight line, which connects the two geometric centers, will not move sideways and/or will not rotate at any angle.
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5) The experiments is carried out in a space station under weightlessness conditions. Friction is negligible.
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Simple and clear.
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Dear ME, dear colleague, can you do this simple animation now?
Looking for ward to your answer.

[ME]

If you want something from me then please don't introduce new ideas...
Just stay on course.
Be patient.

So here's animation #3

1. Blue Planet
2. Green Ramp
3. Red Box
4. Yellow Spring

1. The Ramp is firmly attached to the Planet;
2. The mass of the Box is the same as the mass of the Planet;
3. The Ramp is almost mass-less (slope angle 18.85°)
4. The Box touches the incline;
5. The Spring connects the Center of Mass of the Box with the Center of Mass of the Planet;
6. By definition the spring always acts in a straight line;
7. Because of Conservation of Momentum the Center of Mass of both combined will not move;
8. As a reference I added two vertical grey line and one horizontal;
9. A rotation measurement was added for both the Box as the Planet in relative to inertial space - I reset the box angle to zero;
10. A Center of Mass measurement was added for the Box and Planet combined;

I assume you meant (f) and (g) when you mentioned that vague rectangle-story;
I also assume that you thought that the Center of both the Box and the Planet individually would remain in a perfect vertical line; and that only a relative "alpha" (box rotation) and "beta" (Planet rotation) would occur.

Because the spring tries to relax at the shortest distance you can see the box slide towards the tip of the incline, just as happened in the first in-space simulation.
This contraction on an incline makes it possible to rotate the whole setup around their common Center of Mass.

What you observe in the animation is a periodic oscillation around that minimum spring distance halfway the slope.
In this simulation that halfway point is where the Box- and Planet- Rotations are at 12.18°.
The measured angle of the spring is 6.7° to the left in that inertial frame of space.

Sorry for the lousy positioning of the animation as it moves out of view, but you have to deal with that.

[eccentrically1]

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/20 ... s01-08.pdf

Meanwhile, the Baron still tries to lift himself up by his own hair via the black and blue components.

[George1]

To ME.
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Hi ME,
Hi dear colleague,
Yes, that's it! Perfect! You are a genius! (I am not flattering you, it's a real fact!)
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1) I would like only to ask you to make one (ONLY ONE!) small additional correction. And it is that the spring (and more precisely its longitudinal axis of symmetry) has always to be inside the two-lines channel and the two geometric centers have to be also inside the two lines channel.
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2) I am preparing now the drawings block-ramp-ball that you wanted a few weeks ago. Need some time to prepare them precisely and understandably.
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Looking forward to your answer.
Respectfully yours,
George

[Tarsier79]

Flattery because you want something. It seems math is not the only thing you are bad at.

[ME]

1) I would like only to ask you to make one (ONLY ONE!) small additional correction. And it is that the spring (and more precisely its longitudinal axis of symmetry) has always to be inside the two-lines channel and the two geometric centers have to be also inside the two lines channel.

Sure, here it is:
https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/down ... p?id=21914

[George1]

To ME.
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Hi ME,
Thank you for your reply.
Ok, I see that some additional drawings has to be prepared by me. I am doing these drawings now for clarifying the situation. Needs some time.
Respectfully yours,
George