here is yuor Perpetual motion

[perPedes]

and for all. what you see is working with a magnetical chain and ferrofluid

[thx4]

and for all. what you see is working with a magnetical chain and ferrofluid
la chaîne doit fonctionner en gardant des règles physiques.

Don't worry, come back and show us the first watt extracted from an unknown physics, I think we will soon talk about ether, with ether everything works, there is just a little problem. lol.

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[Sam Peppiatt]

Some how, I expected more-----------------------------Sam

[thx4]

The rest of my enthusiasm rests on my judgement that Hans is not conning me! and I know you wouldn't do that, would you Hans? : )

Tu fais confiance à Hans, je fais confiance à Art, nous verrons bien. :)
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[Robinhood46]

I think it could well power a small fridge, as long as the fridge is in the arctic and it doesn't actually need any power.

[perPedes]

do not forget the global warming ;.)

[MrTim]

do not forget the global warming ;.)

As long as it doesn't catch on fire, there shouldn't be a problem... ;-)

[andyblues]

Hi all ,a bit of a let down really, but at least it opens the debate considering the potential of gravity motors but really does not have any real work applications, all though it will compete with solar panels at night ?i meet the gentlemen who invented these fluids back in the late 90s it was all the rage at the time here we are 20 years later and there's a use for it ?maybe the fluid could be charged more and create more force even so its more of a novelty than anything else ,but hey well done sir the world will be changed by your invention /innovation and i am pleased to see something working thank you so much for your work and devotion ,it is encouraging, Andy

[bunjow]

Your lackluster response here is to be expected, I'd say. Really hard to get excited over yet another magnet powered wheel. Does your machine work WITHOUT a magnet and ferro fluid (using just regular water and buoyant mass)? Now that would be exciting!!!

I believe these other magnet wheels are also real and not faked after spending a very short amount time browsing youtube for them just now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oten1viGbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K73R6dMJRCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0k0rJgWuL4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHty4r697DI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR-sdvX2_CE


They appear to be far simpler to make than yours is (and more efficient as well).

How long will magnets keep their strength from heavy usage anyway? I don't know very much about that stuff.

[Tarsier79]

Here is the basic plan of the capillary wheel I will test without a ferro-fluid.

Bunjow, I can guarantee all of those videos are faked. Ideally, it should work without a magnet, scientists will just say the magnet will run out and there is no over-unity.

[bunjow]

Tarsier, did you actually watch any of those links? I know there are a bunch of faked magnet wheel videos out there, but no way those ones could be.

That Portuguese guy in particular, keeps putting his wheel together in all kinds of slightly different, very simplistic, ways to prove that it's not faked.

At the 8 minute mark in this video, he even goes as far as free-holding his basic rotor and magnets outside of their fixture in mid-air!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIkMi1MI7U

Same thing in this video, except he leaves all the parts attached and holds it all in the air, at every angle to see all around it, as it is spinning, so that everyone can plainly see there is no trickery going on there. (Around 4 minutes in or so)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxgwTzxfe8Y

It's crazy how many different variations he's done to prove it, actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU0lH3r-bP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIkMi1MI7U

Meh, he's got so many vids uploaded, just go to his profile to see the rest. Made a believer out of me. I just don't know how someone could reasonably scale a magnet wheel for any amount of useable power, that all's. (In size, or expense, that is).

I really hope this capillary concept works out, but I suspect there's a valid reason for why perPedes had to resort to using magnetism here...

[perPedes]

its very easy to know which speening wheel or chain is a fake and which not. when the guy who claims "i have a Pm ", on the other hand not trys to sell maschines which provide a household with energy, he is a cheater. the
HWCV sells acctally these maschines while you are wondering whether the maschine is working or not

[perPedes]

spinning sry, I hope its right nom ;-)

[bunjow]

The question isn't whether who's magnetic wheel is fake or not, but rather, how long can they last? And at what cost? Magnets aren't free energy, they are stored energy that wears out with use.

I see that there has already been a commercial size unit already developed now and still in the testing phase.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/one-mans-u ... 1558029179

It weighs 1,222 pounds, puts out an average of 4.4 kW and has cost $16 million USD to develop so far (with plans to fundraise even more), according to that article dated May 16, 2019.

Their science and technology officer himself even (more or less) admits that their magnets are nothing more than stored energy devices in this statement in that article:

"Mr. Danzik winces at the phrase “perpetual motion,” with centuries of humbug behind it. “It’s a generator,” he said during an interview at IEC’s lab and training facility in Scottsdale, Ariz. Left running, the machines, known as Earth Engines, will eventually exhaust themselves. He just isn’t sure when.

“We really don’t know how long the magnets will perform,” Mr. Danzik said."

perPedes, there is no doubt in my mind that your device is also one of the legit magnet wheels, but I have serious doubts as to whether the capillary effect is providing any of the force needed to turn that chain of yours. For now, I have to believe that you device is simply running in it's entirety from the stored energy in that magnet.

[Tarsier79]

Bunjow, I only partly watched them and skipped through.

The question isn't whether who's magnetic wheel is fake or not, but rather, how long can they last? And at what cost? Magnets aren't free energy, they are stored energy that wears out with use.

Magnet motors have the same problem gravity motors have. It takes just as much energy to enter the field as it takes to leave it, or vise versa. No matter what angle they come or leave, the same problem exists. No fixed magnet motor like this will work. There are other angles to consider, and I have investigated some of them, but am no expert, like shielding, field cancellation...

It weighs 1,222 pounds, puts out an average of 4.4 kW and has cost $16 million USD to develop so far (with plans to fundraise even more), according to that article dated May 16, 2019.

There is a small possibility he has it working, like the odds of being struck by lightning twice. There are people that are very good at scamming. If you could convince people to give you 16 million in development money, you would try to keep a scam going too, and could build an impressive fake with a small amount of that money.

its very easy to know which speening wheel or chain is a fake and which not....

There are plenty of scammers that will "sell" you a free energy generator.

How much is yours, posted to Australia. Is it the magnetic chain model? Have you managed to scale it to produce 100W?