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[neuberlintourist1]

"No. 24: This invention ought not to be scorned. It consists of separate levers with
weights. Between the weights are small iron poles with screw threads. The poles fall
inward when the levers close. There is something one must learn first before one can
grasp and correctly understand the good quality of the invention."

The only free motion is falling , I think MT 24 highlighted on this as did MT 13.

rephrase:
This invention ought not to be scorned.
It consists of TETHER INTERCONNECTED BUT separate levers with
weights ACTING as one weight TOGETHER.
The princple is falling like a stone to the earth, not flying like a bird with its feathers.
Between the weights are small iron poles with screw threads; FIXED TO A TETHER WHICH ITSELF SEPERATES; ONE WEIGHT IN MOTION GIVING SPACE FOR THE NEXT.
The poles fall OUTWARD when the levers close; RELEASING THE TETHER SO THE NEXT ONE IN THE ROW ON THE WHEEL IS ABLE TO FALL.

fits exactly to this design:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8761

Bessler was rhyming many times, Maybe we habe to rewrite his MT Clues?!
Btw im German.

AND: mt13 showing levers, like the 1752 Design having 13 levers, amazing cooincidence i think.
and if you would fix the Lever at 3 o clock letting the Wheel rotate, the 1 lift 4 is on point.

[SHADOW]

Ce que m'inspire le A brisé des commentaires MT de Bessler:
L'arangement joint est équibré de sorte que le gros poids soit moteur.
la gros poids fait 100kg et le petit poids fait 226kg.
à l'horizontale le système reste dans la positon à laquelle on l'arrête.
à la verticale le gros poids prend le dessus et devient moteur.
J.B

What inspires me the Bessler MT comments Broke:
The seal is mounted so that the heavy weight is motor.
Heavy weight is 100kg and small weight is 226kg.
Horizontally the system stays in the position at which it is stopped.
Vertically the big weight takes over and becomes motor.

[thx4]

The only free motion is falling , I think MT 24 highlighted on this as did MT 13.

It's hard to say otherwise, lol.
What I think, working on the periphery of the wheel is way too expensive. Waiting for it to fall off is not very promising. :)
Have we explored everything to move this centre of gravity including the hamster cage?

A++

[SHADOW]

Tu as tout a fait raison THX4, attendre de la bonne volonté de la gravité ne mène à rien de cohérent.
il nous faut la maitriser comme dans une horloge à poids !!!!
J.B

You’re absolutely right, THX4, waiting on the goodwill of gravity leads to nothing coherent.
We must master it as in a weight clock!!!
J.B

[johannesbender]

My issue so far , I can get B to A (confirmed) ,but since the month of may I have been having trouble solving A to B , confusing right.

[SHADOW]

Pour Berlintourist,
En retraçant l'arrangement que vous me proposez, je me suis souvenu de ce qui ne me convenait pas.
la longueur des cables est differente en fonction de l'état de l'arrangement, ouvert ou compressé.
le fait de les amener à la même longueur, nous nous retrouvons dans la même position.
il y a donc un intermédiaire à trouver si on veut le faire fonctioner.
on peut vérifier sur l'image avec un moyen de mesure pour confirmer mon propos.
J.B

For Berlintourist,
As I traced the arrangement you proposed, I remembered what was wrong with me.
the length of the cables is different depending on the state of the arrangement, open or compressed.
Getting them to the same length, we’re in the same position.
So there is an intermediary to find if we want it to work.
You can check the image with a measurement to confirm my statement.
J.B

[SHADOW]

Johanesbender,
les éléments donnés me sont insufisent pour vous orienter.
à première vue je dirais d'utilisez une genouillère (bielle manivelle, vilebrequin) dans le plan Z
J.B

The evidence I’ve been given is inadequate to guide you.
at first sight I would say to use a knee pad (crank rod, crankshaft) in the Z plane
J.B

[SHADOW]

Neuberlintourist:

Le principe n'est pas bon, les cordes ne servent à rien elles sont là pour créer l'ilusion d'un potentiel fontionnement.
après une simulation sur Algodoo, on constate que les liaisons des cordes se déplacent dans le même sens, alors que pour créer un bascule afin de remonter, il faut qu'elles aillent en sens oposés.
J.B

The principle is not good, the strings are useless they are there to create the ilusion of a potential fontionnement.
After a simulation on Algodoo, we see that the strings' links move in the same direction, whereas to create a toggle in order to go up, they have to go in the oposed direction.
J.B

[SHADOW]

Test Algodoo

[johannesbender]

https://www.ropebook.com/information/vector-forces/

some useful information on resulting force vectors with for instance rigging at angles.

[SHADOW]

Merci JB pour ces documents, auriez vous la même chose sur le Lazy Tong.
J.B

Thank you JB for these documents, you would have the same thing on the Lazy Tong.
J.B

[SHADOW]

Le dernier concept avec genouillères.
en cours d'optimisation.
J.B

The latest concept with knee pads.
being optimized.
J.B

[SHADOW]

Evolution une de la précédente, moin efficace donc pas concluante.
J.B

Evolution one of the previous, moin effective therefore not conclusive.
J.B

[SHADOW]

Seconde évolution, conclusion identique à la précédente.
J.B

Second evolution, same conclusion as the previous one.
J.B

[SHADOW]

3ème évolution, plus prometteuse.
Les points de changement d'état sont plus prêts de ce que je souhaite.
J.B

Third evolution, more promising.
The status change points are closer to what I want.
J.B