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[WaltzCee]

Yeah, someone's manipulating the record. That's evident. They can mangez ma dust. See y'all @ the finish line. Bessler won't even be in the stands, much less in the race.

[preoccupied]

You become the past when you time travel. Although you can change events it's an incredibly destructive force and usually has a short time frame to pull duplicate matter from the future while changing very little. You would have to break the grandfather paradox by killing yourself so that you can choose new actions or interrupt yourself before you do a duplication causing two of you to exist in the same time line. Though I don't think that makes parallel universes. In fact I think a sub universe infinitely exists and not exists that is not a Universe but just energy. It reminds me of pascals triangle. There is more to the number system and reality is the same way but that doesn't mean that those numbers exist but they are just as real if you make them real by like creating duplicate matter from a possible future. The time line goes forward predictably it's not chaotic so if you change something most events will repeat almost identically as if you didn't do anything, in fact it is absolutely identical except for the duplicated matter because the future and past kind of morph together to create on solid entity. If you do weird time travel you don't typically change the future you just create duplicates in the past unless you have creative control by breaking a grandfather paradox then you are like 4th dimensional entity. Easy though because my time line creates reality and human evolution. Yahweh floods the Earth and creates most of the Earth's ecosystem with new water from an x shaped machine. With over 15 time travel duplicates I am not a time line that should be modified because It might push the limits of available changes. Time travel might be infinite physically but are you willing to transform into entirely different species because of it like lizards? I like humanity they are pleasurable and talented. The outcome where I don't fight off a giant space alien near the planet in the distant past causes everybody to become squawking reptiles. You see the alien threw a rock into the planet and killed the dinosaurs creating humanity as we know it and that's because of me. A more effective fight by me to the alien might result in the dinosaurs not dying and we would be reptiles. But because I was the original time traveler acting alone it creates humanity.

I've taped together several circles of cardboard but I'm having trouble making large enough holes for several paper clips. I don't have a drill. I need really strong axles because they are separated and not close together, the different wheels. Right now I am stabbing the cardboard with tacks repeatedly trying to make larger holes.

[JUBAT]

I'm guessing that anything that preoccupied thinks is SPAM is easily removed by going back in time and changing it.

See the quote above for a correction to my original post.

[JUBAT]

Can you use hammer and nails to punch your holes? Also you can heat up nail with fire from a stove or lighter and force it through...burning as you go.

Just some tricks for you to try...

[preoccupied]

I can't make an axle that can stay sturdy and stiff with my materials in which the wheel barrow wheel is separate from the lever. I need like a thick wheel and more stable axle. And the back part of the axle the part connected to the main wheel needs to be securely connected so that it stays perpendicular and I can't do that with paperclips. At this point I can't even hold it in place and have the axle be sturdy enough to support a wheel barrow wheel where the wheel of the wheel barrow is further out to be separate from the axle. I can't make the wheel barrow wheel close the the main wheel that would be easier because the wheel barrow wheel is connected to the lever and not the main wheel. The lever is connected to the main wheel. I think that I can make a proof of concept wheel again but this time more sturdy and I might be able to make a video showing it. But I don't know how to transfer video from my phone to my computer. If I get to that point. The proof of concept works fine. I didn't get a very detailed proof when I did the tacks and cardboard only attempt because it was held by my hand and I had to be careful because it fell apart right afterwards. A sturdy attempt would be a nice vote of confidence by me that I have a working idea. From the tacks only attempt I think what I discovered was that it was okay at 90 degrees to the axle. I think it was a little easier angled in some. Maybe a more twisted swastika would be even more of a runner where the levers are a little more twisted inwards. The physics will be apparent with another working model. I can't do that tack thing again I bled and i spent hours trying to get it to stay together just once to do the test and I am not even sure if the test was accurate.

[JUBAT]

Sounds like you need to start collecting some tools and materials and build a bit more robust. It's not as easy as it looks.

[preoccupied]

I think that I improved the design. I notice that it tends to work best when moving at 90 degrees to the axis. Which means that the wheel barrow is pushing directly into the wheel circle at 90 degrees. But it also seems to want to move when the wheel barrow is falling downwards. The 90 degrees position removes it from pushing into the wheel by the wheel barrow and the downward lever movement completely removes the weight from the wheel and even pulls a little on it in the right direction. So the ramp I drew now snugly holds the wheel barrow at 90 degrees. The lever slowly falls downward but slower than if there were no ramp. Longer levers can improve the design. I think longer levers can improve the design. You could also put a ramp on the top to unload and reload weights and if the levers were long enough the weight on the left would only need to lift 45 degrees before it loads onto the top ramp. I drew a small blue line where the top ramp might be for that scenario but in the image the levers aren't quite long enough to reach the ramp like i described

[preoccupied]

The ramp causes 4 weights to drive up the one weight. It loads a weight on the blue line on top.

[preoccupied]

Keep in mind that the wheel is holding the wheel barrow 90 degrees to the axis which places it pushing into the axle which means that it doesn't touch the levers on the wheel. The ramp action fighting causes the weight to fall downwards continuously thereby taking it off the load of the wheel and it pulls on the wheel a little too. So because the lever is acting downwards towards the ramp even though it's not moving a lot it still drives the wheel with all four weights listed and lifts only the one weight. Don't think that I"m misled and that actually two weights are lifted, no in this case it is actually just 1 weight all of the time being lifted. In other designs you might not count that last weight lifted all of the way to the end of the segment turn but in this case the ramp can hold the weight extra time allowing for 1 weight to be lifted the entire time by 4 weights the entire time.

A guy on twitter a new account suspiciously engaged in conversation with me to mine for information and blocked me after I shared a little bit about myself. He called me a genius for my design but didn't keep talking to me after revealing more about myself.

Sons of Plunder - Disturbed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kc4y1fnCBY

sincerely, Jon Perry.

[preoccupied]

I posted this on Twitter too. I almost forgot to share it here. As you know my swinger weights design that I had so much faith in can actually be modified into this working design too. My ramp swastika thing I've shared and the swinger weights really do produce perpetual motion machines! I just didn't have the right modification to the good ideas. But here I am now shining like a star.

[JUBAT]

You must quit claiming success until it has been built and proven. It truly makes people look like the village idiot. I am claiming none of your devices will work and yet it is still up to you to prove me wrong. You stand to gain way more than Ill ever lose by either of us being proved right.

[preoccupied]

You must quit claiming success until it has been built and proven. It truly makes people look like the village idiot. I am claiming none of your devices will work and yet it is still up to you to prove me wrong. You stand to gain way more than Ill ever lose by either of us being proved right.

Maybe I should reword it as conceptually plausible working designs. You are being stupid though by not analyzing the paperwork. You are giving no valuable input here by saying what you said.

[JUBAT]

I'm just trying to keep things real. You yourself said you are shining like a star but for what? Untested designs on paper?

I applaud your efforts and build attempts, but when I start smelling B.S. I'm going to help keep people in check. I want to discover Bessler's secret as much as the next guy, but I will perpetually attempt to be the voice of reason. No one can claim success unless it is built for real and it works. No idea on paper will ever be deemed a success without testing. Just because you see a drawing of people walking on Jupiter doesn't mean it has happened.

[preoccupied]

I am a shining star from an untested design on paper. Thank you for noticing. You are not a voice of reason. Step one find something that works. That means use your brain. These drawings obviously have something conceptual in them and you decide to focus on the text of the lunatic who drew them! And Maybe I haven't described the drawings well enough. You see these are concepts that don't require math to know that they would work because they are overwhelmingly overbalanced, at least the swastika is. The swinging weights can be tipped pretty easy by the larger weights but it shouldn't the way it's drawn. And I've seen at least two drawings on Bessler wheel that could be working designs also that were taken from me being spied on on my computer. One was deleted from the forum and another just isn't worth complaining about right now. Even if I don't save my ideas it doesn't matter because I am being remotely viewed on my desktop activity somehow. On paper the only ideas that I have seen that are worth anything are my idea. And all I need at first is a working paper design written down that makes sense because step one find something that works. I know I have a reputation for complaining like this about my ideas I'm Sir Isaac Newton but in this computer age I am obviously being abused.

1. Swastika wheel

a. the ramp holds the weight at 90 degrees to the axis. This means that the wheel barrow pushing into the axis at 90 degrees. What does that do? If the pressure on the wheel is 90 degrees to the axis then it does not apply force on either side of the wheel.

b. the lever on the wheel barrow continually falls downward a small amount the entire path along the ramp. So it's driving the wheel even if not as much as you would think would be useful. This takes it off of the wheel as counter torque even when the weights on the left side of the axle... As long as the weight is falling it will be driving the wheel clockwise in the images I've drawn and while it's on the wheel barrow it's not applying force into the wheel because of the angle it hits the wheel at 90 degrees to the axis.

c. 4 weights lift one weight. All you have to do to reach a higher ramp up top is make the lever longer. If the lever is longer it will reach the upper ramp earlier. If it reaches it earlier than the weight starts to be lifted off of the bottom ramp then only one weight will be lifted at a time because the weight at the top ramp will have been unloaded before the next weight is lifted off the bottom ramp.

d. preponderance of weight. Even if the ramp provided zero extra drive which it does not it provides some extra drive - the two weights hanging on the right on levers before the ramp is used are enough to lift the one weight up. The trick that makes this possible is that the ramp holds a falling weight on the wheel barrow falling slowly until the weight unloads at the top. The ramp is the trick.

2. swinging weights

a. balancing the heavy weights. The heavy weights continuously reach a position where they all cancel out each other. They are so aligned that they should simultaneously be effected by the same forces taking the same path as their parallel counterparts. If all of parts are uniform they should all take on simultaneous forces and the small weight is the driving weights of the wheel but they could be literally any amount of weight because the larger weights should be balanced. The large weight can be about 6 weight and the small weight about 1 weight.

b. positioning the smaller weights along only one side of the wheel. The 4:1 gear ratio allows a quarter of 90 degree turn of a larger weight to lift a smaller weight a full 90 degree turn. On the left side in the image the small weight is swung to the axle. On the right it's swung to the top right corner of the square. It's all ideal positions really.

Thank you for your time. The pleasure is all mine.

[JUBAT]

Until my dying day I'll insist and never waiver that any ideas on paper are unworkable until a device is built that proves it. You could counter everything I ever say on the issue, but you'll find I'm not along in that sentiment. Your efforts and sketches are applaudable, but until they are tested, they will forever be unproven concepts.