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Until my dying day I'll insist and never waiver that any ideas on paper are unworkable until a device is built that proves it. You could counter everything I ever say on the issue, but you'll find I'm not along in that sentiment. Your efforts and sketches are applaudable, but until they are tested, they will forever be unproven concepts.

By that logic you wouldn't have any physics on paper at all. Once the concept it derived it can be produced on paper all ways. All Physics is predictable on paper. You give very little diversity to the behavior in my thread. If Jim_Mich were here or if someone uniquely useful on the forum weren't turned off by me or if the forum were more robust there would be someone that would meet me in the middle and tell me that I am right about the concept. There is a PhD student on twitter that likes my perpetual motion machines but he thinks I'm insane and is giving me a hard time. I am Sir Isaac Newton. I am not insane! I wasn't even insane when I was Newton, I never had a mental breakdown I was just sick of the nonstop butt sex and sexual harassment of women to get me butt sex. I think so, it has been a while in my memory since I was in Great Britain by time traveling. I think that I remember that right.

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I improved my MS Painting drafting of my designs. I know that i don't know mechanical symbols but this is the best I could do with MS Paint.

The swastika model shows that it's not 4 weights lifting 1, it's about 3.5 weights lifting 1, but the concept looks like 4 weights lifting 1 before you get into the details about how to position the ramp. If the ramp caused the wheel barrow to widen itself consistently throughout the fall 4 weights would life the 1 but it would make itself 45 degrees and no matter how long the lever is it would not reach the ramp because ti would be parallel to it, and suddenly you are lifting an extra weight. So anything before 4 lifting 1 would work but 4 lifting 1 would be an impossibility because it would make the lever parallel to the ramp. I think the ramp I have here is realistic for a model that could be built. The concept for this ramp is to have the blue lines have the weight fall vertically downwards a very small amount for the full 45 degree turn and then it would constrict a little and then widen a little on the next 45 degree path in red and purple.

So the physics the way I was able to test it physically with a concept build is, that when the wheel barrow's angle is widening it will roll left on the ramp and is driving the wheel some. It doesn't matter if the weight on the wheel barrow is falling or rising, it depends only on whether the wheel barrow angle is widening or constricting. If it's constricting and lifting the weight upwards it will cause resistance but if its widening it will roll left on the ramp. So in purple it is rolling left on its own. In blue the weight is falling downwards constantly and for part of the ramp process it is widening.

my swinging weights on 4:1 gear ratio design had the arrows indicating where the weights were swinging wrong in my previous drawing. I correct that in this drawing. Sorry for any confusion about that.

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This is messy but I drew a calculation of what it would take to move the wheel along the ramp "proving" that it will be a runner. I took the angle out from 90 degrees touching the wheel barrow which was about 15 degrees from 90 degrees and I deducted it from the leverage available to push into the wheelbarrow. There is over twice as much available force as is necessary to push the resistance on the ramp. Will the wheel spin out of control then? It would not because it has to load and unload weights. I actually just notice that the lever length that I was pulling from for the wheel barrow is even less than I drew giving even more extra leverage turning the wheel. I drew it from the beginning of the axle on the wheel barrow but I should have started measuring at the end of the circle because the other side of the axle on the wheel barrow cancels out the length up to the circle since the tip of the circle is connected to the main wheel by the lever on the wheel barrow. Part of the calculation on this reminds me of the concept of a device that can destroy planets with its leverage that I decidedly have been trying to hide. Hopefully, I can keep some secrets. It's an infinite leverage gear train series that can improve leverage with each additional set of gears. If you find this secret don't give it freely to everybody because it can destroy planets. In the mean time find your gravity wheels that can be responsibly managed.

[Tarsier79]

In your above drawing with the 3:00 arm resting on ground, won't the wheel weight be against your movement and try to rotate it CCW?

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In your above drawing with the 3:00 arm resting on ground, won't the wheel weight be against your movement and try to rotate it CCW?

I thought that while the weight is falling vertically downward even if by a small amount that it is pulled downward on the ramp. I was treating the ramp as if it were like the horizontal ramp on the bottom in my thinking by saying it would drive the wheel while its widening. But There is a downward pulling force and a force going to the right on the weight. The downward pulling force has to be greater than the force pulling to the right. I think that it might be. As long as the blue weights are falling downwards and not being lifted up any it should have more force pulling down on the ramp. So the lever is not a lever on the wheel or a gear, it's a weight pulling down on a ramp so it doesn't matter where in respect to the axle of the main wheel the weight is as long as it's traveling vertically downward it will pull downwards on the ramp. Imagine if there were a lever attached to a string and the string lay on a ramp that ends far away but a rock is tied to the string and slides off of the ramp far away, no matter the position of the rock it will pull downwards on the ramp if it is falling vertically downwards. The blue weights are supposed to be falling vertically downwards their entire path but as little as possible near the end for efficiency. I can see how if there were no gravity and the weight were pulled to the right only on the ramp set up it would pull the wheel in the upwards direction. I haven't been able to physically test a ramp like this because my materials and precision isn't good enough. I really think that while the weight on the wheel barrow is traveling down a path vertically downwards that it will drive the wheel. At this point I don't know for sure though. Thanks for asking!

If there were nothing else on the wheel and it were just the blue path it would aggressively try to fall downwards I think. Why the hell would it try to flip upwards? THAT would be a trick to see. I think that at the end of the blue path once the weight has finished its downward descent and begins to constrict that there and only there on the ramp in red is there resistance and that the blue and purple paths are driving the wheel.

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If you take the swinging weights and turn it 45 degrees and connect the two pictures together the full set of connections would be overbalanced too. If you take the picture and turn it 45 degrees it will keel by 4 units of weight but with both drawings together it will be overbalanced by 6 or more weight. The swinging weights swings into unbalanced positions then. It has potential. Building it would be a nightmare and a drum of many gear ratios, like the 4:1 gear ratios that drive the weights but just a lot of gears and I am not equipped with a machine shop. I actually have nobody to help me build any wheels and I might never have any help.

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In your above drawing with the 3:00 arm resting on ground, won't the wheel weight be against your movement and try to rotate it CCW?

I don't know if you mean that the image looks like the weight at the end of the lever looks like it's resting on the ground. That blue line was just a guide for me to draw to. The wheel of the wheel barrow is connected to the ramp and the weights are touching nothing but the lever. However you bring up the point that the blue lines by themselves have to be driving the wheel in order for my concept to work and I think it does drive the wheel as long as the weights are falling vertically downward. If the blue lines are by themselves do they pull the wheel downwards or do they get stuck on the ramp? I believe it will pull the wheel downwards as long as the weights are falling downwards. This requires the wheelbarrow to widen its angle after the weight reaches the center of the axle position. However there is a lever pushing between the wheel and the ramp and it might brace the wheel barrow in place and it might not drive the wheel then. I don't think so though. I appeared to me when I did my physical test that if the wheel barrow was widening its angle that i wanted to drive left on the ramp but I was using my hand and the test model was falling apart over and over again. I really think that Fletcher could help if he could exacto a drawing in a simulation program other than algodoo just for this particular blue ling and ramp section. He seems to be the guy with the skills for that. The wheel barrow has the ramp positioned at a right angle to the axis until its weight reaches the center then it begins widening its angle so that the weight falls vertically downwards. It should cause the weight to cause the wheel barrow to roll to the left.

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All the talk of Stork's bills or SB's has made me curious tonight.

I give to you my doodle. The middle piece and the 45 degree sb to its right is connected by a pulley so they exchange together. The sb 45 degree on the top left is pulled in by a stopper by a lever on the beginning of the sb. sb on the horizontal plane on the right pushed in by a lever at the beginning of the sb by a stopper. So while the weights on the right side horizontally are being pushed in they also drive the wheel pulling in the stork's bill on the top left. In the blue version it's twice as effective because there is two weights driving the wheel instead of one. This uses the right angle I drew for the blue lines. The blue lines just indicate where the stork's bills would be it's a different set up than the black lines. The main idea is that the weights in their positions before shifting are preloaded and driving the wheel. That's the prime mover the weights are already in position to drive the wheel and are moving out of position together. These shifting mechanisms would only work with a stork's bill.

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The special stopper rim around the outside of the wheel is what makes this work. The green lever is closing the sb and the stopper fits through a gap on the lever to pass through. The purple lever opens the sb and the stopper goes over top of it like a regular stopper would normally. So only the green lever is unique in that it has a gap in it allowing the stopper circle to pass through it. There is like 5 out of balanced weights on the right side before the weights shift and when the weights shift they are lifting 2 weights up on sb the other weight shifting on sb is horizontally moving. So the only difference between this sb design and all of the ones you guys have been looking at is that the sb is pushing in and out of the rim. This might be one of Bessler's wheel. Who is to say there weren't a lot of them? Bessler might have had a few over balanced wheel successes.

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I count 4 out of balance weights in this before the weights shift. There is always two out of balance weights. There is a gear controlling sb lever that shifts the sb.... The gear can be a gear ratio as if the gear were very large. the bottom right gear can shift the weights earlier than the top left gear can shift that sb. This could mean that one gear finishes before the other starts! Then 4 weights would be out of balance for the first gear on the bottom right when it starts shifting and 3 weights for the second gear shifting on the top left and after both gears shift there is 2 weights out of balance until it turns some and then it will hit the 4 weights out of balance again. I think that i can begin shifting the bottom right gear as early as 45 degree turn of the wheel and it would finish before I start the next gear and the top left gear holds the weights or sb inner axle so I could take my time unwinding the sb and it could roll on the gear for almost 90 degrees. I won't know the exact amount of gear action until I can make some measurements and MS Paint is really bad for that. So I will have to think about what I have to do to figure that out. Maybe i can draw it on paper and use string to help make measurements. But the compass I bought from Meijer's grocery store is so dastardly cheap it doesn't keep its shape when making circles.

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This overbalanced wheel uses a 45 degree ramp and a long lever to load up a weight into an overbalanced position. The lever can be any length so this is impossible to not work because the overbalance of the wheel has infinite leverage to reload the weight now. if you disregard the mechanisms weight and just focus on the weight of the heavy weights it makes sense. Relative weight of the heavy weights will always overpower the possibly as light as possible mechanism no matter how long the levers are. Iron weights and light wood levers the iron weights win. Anyways we all know we are trying to move weights. The mechanism isn't usually considered in the calculation. This mechanisms reload lever can be any length.

[ArchCalc]

I can understand why you have never built anything.

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I can understand why you have never built anything.

Is there something wrong with my most recent design? There appears to be at least one lever length and weight overbalance on one side and it has to lift a weight up but the force required to lift the weight up can be infinitesimally nothing if the lever on the ramp is long enough.

I built the proof of concept for the four weights lifting one weight ramp model! It's not actually 4 wights lifting 1 weight it's more like 3 weights lifting 1 and pushing one along the ramp. The proof of concept only showed how the weights would move along a ramp to me. I wasn't able to build the whole wheel or I would have a working wheel right now of that version.

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I do see something wrong with my new picture.

The weight wasn't far enough out. In these over balanced wheel designs where the weight is lifted up out of balance on a lever the weight has to be proportional to the wheel. The further the weight is out on the lever in proportion to the wheel the more prime mover it has in that position. In my drawing that I gave my concept with the weights were not far enough out on the wheel to even be overbalanced at all. But if you look at this new image here I see that there is about one lever length horizontally that it is over balanced by and that should be enough to drive up the load because of the long lever on the ramp.

The top middle weight and the bottom left weight together cancel out the bottom right weight. The top left weight and the top right weight cancel out. The middle right weight overpowers the middle left weight by an entire horizontal lever distance. So the overbalance of this wheel is one lever distance horizontally.

The rim being used to load a weight into position somewhere on the wheel is determined by the lever or gear size and I've made the lever or gear variable INFINITE. You can make the lever that reloads the weight any length if you have room physically under the wheel. How much lever is necessary then? You don't need infinite lever obviously. I think that it needs about 4 times as much length as the length of the lever being loaded up. I mean that is sure to work. How would the wheel slow down if this works I would wonder too? It must come in the form of angular momentum. The faster the wheel goes the faster it will reload the weight too and that speed of distance change must drain some speed off of the wheel from angular momentum otherwise it would spin out of control. Well angular momentum gets more powerful the faster something goes and is greater in greater proportions the further out you are. So eventually if ti's fast enough because a weight is being put outer part of the spin it will slow down at a certain speed. I bet the wheel could get pretty fast though.

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I want to prove the concept of my previous drawing with this new drawing. I am showing that a gear on a rim outside of the main wheel adds leverage to anything lifted within the wheel by that gear. In this the red amount is being lifted by the green amount. But I dare ask you because the overbalance of the wheel is pushing against the gear at its axle that is connected to the rim of an outer connection, does the red amount also lift the red amount? Bessler said weights gained force from their own swinging. Does the red amount apply force to itself because it is off balance on the right side of the wheel and driving the gear to the left which drives itself upwards? I think so! If this is a useful trick it also proves my previous design works that just uses a long lever that can be of infinite size and possibly a variety of designs that use this specific trick I am sharing here might work too in certain variations.

I don't know why I don't have your attention. I think most of you are ignoring me. I might be God, if God is a mad scientist who invented a time machine and flooded the Earth using a machine shaped like an X and helped free the Jews from Egypt. My duplicate in the past is likely just such an entity. I have like 15+ time travel duplicates like him and possibly numerous uncountable copies in space fighting space aliens. I am the only deterrent to space alien aggression, a giant space alien threw an meteor into the planet and killed the dinosaurs and I personally fought and destroyed him. Year 2003 I ran past the speed of light on foot and duplicated and my duplicate is Hermes in the past the Greek god. But who cares? I am a shadow of my former self with terrible traumatic brain injury, if i once had a 400+ IQ I don't now and I totally suck at everything, especially at getting you nerds respect. I get no respect. I'm a regular Rodney Dangerfield over here. My perpetual motion machines get no respect.

Edit I realize in hindsight that my image measures the green line of the weight on the main wheel on the middle right in hindsight when it provides no extra leverage. But the thing I was trying to show if I can understand it myself is that the size of the gear on the left adds to the leverage lifting something else on the wheel like I'm trying to show. If the weight on the middle right were further out it would add torque measurement amount in green to the lifting of the weight on the top. It is the same distance away from the axle as the gear on the left so it shouldn't have that green line indicating lever distance that I drew. I was wrong about that in hindsight but only that part of my drawing. The concept for the drawing is correct.