AP Wheel within Wheel
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AP Wheel Unit Thoughts 90 degrees
Hello All
This image shows the 'AP Wheel Unit' at 90 Degrees.
Note the Red marker has replaced the Blue masses original zero degrees position.
The second image shows top down angled view.
Also the Blue mass height does vary and is equivalent to a circular curved ramp.
An acceleration will cause movement in the pendulum except in the vertical. Or after swinging the pendulum to cause an exception in the horizontal.
I am thinking the movement of the pendulum is 50% with a lateral acceleration vectors as it comes from a 45 degrees vector and not at 90 degree were it would be 100%.
Note.
We are getting acceleration in the Z plain. Where the larger wheel accelerates is in the X or Y translation only.
P.S. I have this thought to watch out for a 'Coriolis Effect' like behaviour. It does not exist at 90 or Zero degrees. It should be more pronounced with other angles.
Regards
This image shows the 'AP Wheel Unit' at 90 Degrees.
Note the Red marker has replaced the Blue masses original zero degrees position.
The second image shows top down angled view.
Also the Blue mass height does vary and is equivalent to a circular curved ramp.
An acceleration will cause movement in the pendulum except in the vertical. Or after swinging the pendulum to cause an exception in the horizontal.
I am thinking the movement of the pendulum is 50% with a lateral acceleration vectors as it comes from a 45 degrees vector and not at 90 degree were it would be 100%.
Note.
We are getting acceleration in the Z plain. Where the larger wheel accelerates is in the X or Y translation only.
P.S. I have this thought to watch out for a 'Coriolis Effect' like behaviour. It does not exist at 90 or Zero degrees. It should be more pronounced with other angles.
Regards
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Last edited by agor95 on Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:40 am, edited 3 times in total.
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AP Wheel within Wheel [ Lagrangian ]
Hello All
We have talked about looking for a solution that stays within the conservation laws etc.
That being the case I have used conservation of the total system energy to drive the pendulums behaviour.
The web page attached gives you all the 3D drag rotate on the first window.
You have point to view numbers values on the second widow.
All the Best
We have talked about looking for a solution that stays within the conservation laws etc.
That being the case I have used conservation of the total system energy to drive the pendulums behaviour.
The web page attached gives you all the 3D drag rotate on the first window.
You have point to view numbers values on the second widow.
All the Best
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- AP_Wheelwu_v0_4.html.zip
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Last edited by agor95 on Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: AP Wheel within Wheel
energy cancellation = prime moverless
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AP Wheel within Wheel [Static Test]
Hi All
The image below is a static test rig.
The Cross Bar angle is 0 degrees when horizontal. Normal convention applied as negative degrees result in a clockwise rotation of the wheel like motion.
I entered rotation in 30 degree increments into the test rig.
The Blue to Yellow extension rods are at 45 degrees slanted forwards to the expected movement.
They are slanted again at 45 degrees towards you on the right and away from you on the left.
The end yellow point are the axles for the pendulums that have their own connection rods.
The pendulums are ratcheted so they can only move anti-clockwise as seen looking down the radial to the hub.
I was not expecting much from this static test. However it did give me some insight and gave me a way of checking for accuracy.
The Black sphere is the Centre of Gravity [x,y,z]. Due to it the slant configuration has changed too forwards, clockwise, instead of anti-clockwise as seen in previous presentation.
I manually found the minima height angles for the pendulums on each 30 degree rotation wheel step.
P.S. If I were to add another 'Cross Bar' at 90 degrees to the first. Then I would place the Prime Mover units so they alternated like a Jacob's Ladder style.
So the slant back alternate with a slant forwards. This would be done for no reason other than aesthetics.
All the Best
The image below is a static test rig.
The Cross Bar angle is 0 degrees when horizontal. Normal convention applied as negative degrees result in a clockwise rotation of the wheel like motion.
I entered rotation in 30 degree increments into the test rig.
The Blue to Yellow extension rods are at 45 degrees slanted forwards to the expected movement.
They are slanted again at 45 degrees towards you on the right and away from you on the left.
The end yellow point are the axles for the pendulums that have their own connection rods.
The pendulums are ratcheted so they can only move anti-clockwise as seen looking down the radial to the hub.
I was not expecting much from this static test. However it did give me some insight and gave me a way of checking for accuracy.
The Black sphere is the Centre of Gravity [x,y,z]. Due to it the slant configuration has changed too forwards, clockwise, instead of anti-clockwise as seen in previous presentation.
I manually found the minima height angles for the pendulums on each 30 degree rotation wheel step.
P.S. If I were to add another 'Cross Bar' at 90 degrees to the first. Then I would place the Prime Mover units so they alternated like a Jacob's Ladder style.
So the slant back alternate with a slant forwards. This would be done for no reason other than aesthetics.
All the Best
Last edited by agor95 on Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:29 am, edited 2 times in total.
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AP Wheel within Wheel [2 Cross Bars ]
Hi All
The zip file hold a static 3D model of a 2 Cross Bar setup.
As always open the unzipped html files and mouse drag using the right mouse button.
P.S. Now I need to work on the dynamics. That will put the pendulums in their proper positions.
I have just used the default pendulum 'Hanging Down' position for this model.
All the Best
The zip file hold a static 3D model of a 2 Cross Bar setup.
As always open the unzipped html files and mouse drag using the right mouse button.
P.S. Now I need to work on the dynamics. That will put the pendulums in their proper positions.
I have just used the default pendulum 'Hanging Down' position for this model.
All the Best
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- AP_Wheelwu_v4_4.html.zip
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Last edited by agor95 on Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: AP Wheel within Wheel
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Re: AP Wheel within Wheel
Finally an original thought after 16 years. I can only be impressed.
It is only right and proper for people to be concerned when they receive attachments that appear to have an executable payload.
Therefore if you look the zip file has an HTML extension content file.
Then you will notice most computers open the zip file by default and also open the HTML file in a browser.
If a person has followed best practice they would have anti-virus scanning software and that would automatically check the zip file and HTML file.
I for one would not run a Microsoft browser on a Microsoft operating system. I would also update operating system and software on a regular basis.
All this is minor as the file is executed in a professional browser that is using Javascript [ECMAScript ].
Browsers are designed to be a sandbox. A lot of time is spent to address security issues. Again Javascript originally created for Netscape was developed to also address security.
Saying that there were errors but plugging holes has been going on since 1995.
Finally the script creates sphere and cylinders and can move them around. It uses HTML5 webGL too talk to your graphics card.
Your graphics card controls your screen. Not your CPU.
I trust this address some of the readers concerns. For the Paranoid - What are you doing here?
Last edited by agor95 on Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:20 am, edited 6 times in total.
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Re: AP Wheel within Wheel
You have no idea what I think, you arrogant piece of crap.Finally an original thought after 16 years. I can only be impressed.
Keep blogging.
Last edited by WaltzCee on Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: AP Wheel within Wheel
I reserve the perogative to revisit this tripe.agor95 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:12 amFinally an original thought after 16 years. I can only be impressed.
It is only right and proper for people to be concerned when they receive attachments that appear to have an executable payload.
Therefore if you look the zip file has an HTML extension content file.
Then you will notice most computers open the zip file by default and also open the HTML file in a browser.
If a person has followed best practice they would have anti-virus scanning software and that would automatically check the zip file and HTML file.
I for one would not run a Microsoft browser on a Microsoft operating system. I would also update operating system and software on a regular basis.
All this is minor as the file is executed in a professional browser that is using Javascript [ECMAScript ].
Browsers are designed to be a sandbox. A lot of time is spent to address security issues. Again Javascript originally created for Netscape was developed to also address security.
Saying that there were errors but plugging holes has been going on since 1995.
Finally the script creates sphere and cylinders and can move them around. It uses HTML5 webGL too talk to your graphics card.
Your graphics card controls your screen. Not your CPU.
I trust this address some of the readers concerns. For the Paranoid - What are you doing here?
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........................¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the future is here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Advocate of God Almighty, maker of heaven and earth and redeemer of my soul.
Walter Clarkson
© 2023 Walter W. Clarkson, LLC
All rights reserved. Do not even quote me w/o my expressed written consent.
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Advocate of God Almighty, maker of heaven and earth and redeemer of my soul.
Walter Clarkson
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[Projection]
I trust you do not mind me cutting out the rest of the quote. A person can link back to the original.
There is a little up arrow on the quote top line for that purpose.
You got me thinking about the projection from the pendulum moving along a slope in the Z plane to a vertical equivalent ramp in the vertical.
They are equivalent and both are effected by a reduction of gravity by sine of the slope angle in one and a shallower ramp in the other.
There is one observation. A pendulum can be inverted. So they operate upside down as well as normal. This is not the case for a ramp.
At some point the importance will be understood. There are Transform Matrices that carry out projection, reflection & rotation to name three types.
My road map requires an understanding and implementation of Transformation Matrices. Rotation of 3d coordinates around the X, Y or Z axis are simple.
The matrix below is being worked on as it allows rotation around an arbitrary axis.
Which means the rotation axis is direction between the one so far done.
Regards
Last edited by agor95 on Wed May 10, 2023 9:47 pm, edited 5 times in total.
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Re: AP Wheel within Wheel
Holy frickin' Swiss cheese, is that an actual VGA punch card? I haven't seen one of those in ages! Actually I don't think I ever have.
Last edited by JUBAT on Wed May 10, 2023 9:54 pm, edited 2 times in total.
[TRIPE]
Hi JUBAT
For a moment I could not understand what a punch card has to do with 'Transformation Matrix'.
Then I remembered the spurious posts.
These input methods were before my time JUST.
For a moment I could not understand what a punch card has to do with 'Transformation Matrix'.
Then I remembered the spurious posts.
These input methods were before my time JUST.
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Re: AP Wheel within Wheel
Well sir, no one ever has. VGA? Super geek didn't catch that.
I'm wondering when he's going to present at a siggraph conference showing off his reinvention of a 3-D standard to manipulate a T Pendulum.
I can hear the oo's and ah's now.
NVIDIA look out.
He has at least moved on from polar coordinates to matrix multiplication. Wonder where he got that idea. Maybe next step he'll be spraying his cpu with liquid urine and go quantum.
I wouldn't click on this blogger's links though. I just don't trust his shifty looks.
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Walter Clarkson
© 2023 Walter W. Clarkson, LLC
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Re: [TRIPE]
Keep blogging super geek.Cybercriminals are constantly evolving, innovating new ways to masquerade as trusted sources, breach defenses, and attack people, governments and organizations. While hacking tools and techniques
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Walter Clarkson
© 2023 Walter W. Clarkson, LLC
All rights reserved. Do not even quote me w/o my expressed written consent.
[Disappointing]
I am disappointed that you have not learned 'Matrix Algebra' as you intended.
Your profile created by you referred to your probation officer. So knowing about criminality is more your world than mine.
P.S. So JUBAT how are you with Matrix calculations?
Keep on Trolling
Last edited by agor95 on Thu May 11, 2023 8:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
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