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Dernière mouture de la roue pseudo radiale:
Toujours aussi récalcitrante à tourner sous Algodoo!!!
J.B

Last version of the pseudo radial wheel:
Always as recalcitrant to shoot under Algodoo!!!
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Can you elaborate more about the PRW, specifically the 'P' part.
  • Pseudo Radial Wheel
would "EVIRATE'd" gravity be similar?
something like that? Where's Grimer?

Would you say it doesn't have a normal rim?
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WaltzCee,
L'idée du déplacement pseudo radial est d'éviter les déplacements angulaires non compensés à l'oposé pour qu'il n'y ait pas de différence du nombre de poids agissant par rapport à la direction de la force gravitaire qui divise la roue en deux.
Je ne sais pas si j'ai bien compris votre demande?
Et si je suis clair et compréhensible dans ce que je répond!
Je ne comprend pas "EVIRATE'd"
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WaltzCee,
The idea of pseudo radial displacement is to avoid angular displacements not compensated at the oposé so that there is no difference in the number of weights acting in relation to the direction of gravity force that divides the wheel in two.
I don’t know if I understood your request correctly?
And if I am clear and understanding in what I answer!
I don’t understand "EVIRATE'D"
J.B
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SHADOW wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 8:24 pm WaltzCee,
L'idée du déplacement pseudo radial est d'éviter les déplacements angulaires non compensés à l'oposé pour qu'il n'y ait pas de différence du nombre de poids agissant par rapport à la direction de la force gravitaire qui divise la roue en deux.
Je ne sais pas si j'ai bien compris votre demande?
Et si je suis clair et compréhensible dans ce que je répond!
Je ne comprend pas "EVIRATE'd"
J.B

WaltzCee,
The idea of pseudo radial displacement is to avoid angular displacements not compensated at the oposé so that there is no difference in the number of weights acting in relation to the direction of gravity force that divides the wheel in two.
I don’t know if I understood your request correctly?
And if I am clear and understanding in what I answer!
I don’t understand "EVIRATE'D"
J.B

Ersatz, not EVIRATE'd. I couldn't remember the right word. Thank you for your explaination.
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Dernières nouvelles:
Le disque dur de mon PC portable est grillé, pas de récupération possible
je trie mes archives pour récupérer certaine choses et recharge à partir de ce site.
En attendant de faire les essais de" la double hammers lazy "!!!!
Occupations actuelles:
Déménagement en cours.
Constitution de mon dossier pour faire valoir mes droits à la retraite.
Une archive en pièce jointe.
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Latest news:
My laptop hard drive is fried, no recovery possible
I sort my archives to retrieve certain things and reload from this site.
Waiting to do the "double hammers lazy" tests!!!
Current Occupations:
Moving in progress.
Building my case to claim my pension.
An attached archive.
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Sorry to hear about fried hard drive. That is not good. Always make sure to keep backups of your work and utilize the cloud with password protected files if need be. Thanks for sharing your diagrams.
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La version roue motrice intérieure ne fournie pas assez de couple pour lever les quatre poids de distribution au rapport 1/2.
les poids ne pouvant pas passer les uns au dessus des autres aucun autre rapport n'est possible, ou il faudrait un couple de sortie égal au couple d'entrée pour une vitesse double.

Je passe à la version inverse, roue extérieure motrice
J.B

The inner drive wheel version does not provide enough torque to lift the four distribution weights to the 1/2 ratio.
No other ratio is possible, or an output torque equal to the input torque for a double speed.

I switch to the reverse version, outer wheel drive
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idée brute de forge!!
J.B

raw forge idea!
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L'essai d'Halloween
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SHADOW,
I think you have the right Idea! You need one roller,( it's weight has no effect on the balance), to shift the other one, that drives the wheel. I going to try the same thing but, with pairs-----------------------Sam
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Bonjour Sam,
Je partage cet arrangement car j'ai changé le jouet qui était central dans ma recherche:
Le centre de la page jouets met en évidence les forgerons et les mineurs, la chaine et le Lazytong deviennent accessoires.
J'ai fait un montage sur votre idée de rouleaux pour donner une impulsion pour provoquer un déséquilibre.
Le principe de montage doit être symétrique donc doublé.
Je ne sais pas si la roue peut être fonctionnelle!!!!?
J.B

Hi Sam,
I share this arrangement because I changed the toy that was central to my research:
The center of the toys page highlights blacksmiths and miners, the chain and Lazytong become accessories.
I made a montage on your idea of rollers to give an impulse to cause an imbalance.
The mounting principle must be symmetrical, therefore doubled.
I don’t know if the wheel can be functional!!!?
J.B
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Autre Etude
Le déplacement est assuré :
Le poids sur le bras est de 250g
Le poids roulant est de 2500g
L'inclinaison du bras est de 30°
La roue ne tourne pas !!!

Other Study
Travel is ensured:
The weight on the arm is 250g
The rolling weight is 2500g
Arm tilt is 30°
The wheel is not turning!!
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essai de levage

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Hi Shadow .. they don't have a surplus of torque because of INERTIA, imo ..

e.g. a typical/generic example of a heavy roller mass enclosed in ring guide - pushing or pulling on a SB with smaller unbalancing end mass attached .. etc ..

Take just one mechanism - the heavy roller mass has a lot of inertia as it rotates in its ring guide - the SB and unbalancing end mass has much less inertia ..

It is obviously possible to rotate the setup so that the roller mass extends or contracts the end mass ..

BUT .. the roller mass does not follow the same positional path when it is free to move and doing no work - as soon as it must do work (shifting the end mass) inertia's come into focus - the roller (and its COM) is held up for a while (lag) .. IOW's the two inertia's work against each other so that there is no surplus positive torque and it will always keel ..

IMO ..
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Merci Fletcher, c'est bien ce que je supposais.
l'idée suivante étant de maitriser le mouvement du rouleau si possible!!!
J.B

Thank you, Fletcher, that’s what I assumed.
The next idea is to master the roller movement if possible!!
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