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Re: Grease power

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JUBAT wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:27 pm Jon - I sent you a private message which is a link to a video of a mechanism I built. Go have a look at that video and tell me if this is anything like what you're trying to explain to me because I still don't get it.

For what it's worth...the mechanism I thought up - I dreamed about it last night and if I put too many mechanisms in the wheel, it would stall so it's critical that it be asymmetrically symmetrical if that makes sense.

I think I might just blurt it out because the odds are really good that it won't work like everything else I've dreamed up. I'll share it in the JUBAT Research thread before long.

Then once Fletch sees it publicly, he might feel free to sim it. I can respect his views on sims.

Brings to mind the lyrics of a song I know that says, "If not now then when?" In light of the latest WC post, I guess I could say, "If not now, then Dr. When."
Do you know what I mean by "outer rim"? In pathfinders gif image graphic he has his gears rotate around an outer rim. I placed that outer rim super far away and was able to do this an infinite length if I wanted to. This is what you need to understand to understand what I shared. Look at JL's first post in his YouTube video thread and you will see him using an outer rim to push on levers to lift a weight up into position. It's like pathfinders gears hitting an outer rim in order to rotate. The "outer rim" that is stationary that is like a block to move the lever there. You can use an outer rim to wedge a lever to lift a weight elsewhere. and the outer rim can make the lifting process lighter but it's already a heavy lifting process because when you do this you are also needing to deduct the distance from the secondary axle to the first axle on the wheel. So you would need to make the outer rim connected lever much longer to compensate.
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90 degree path on gear and infinite possible lever example2.png
I just wanted to put the concept in perspective that it can be indeed a very long lever. Compared to the rest of the device this lever is way out there the circle on the right is tiny compared to this massive lever. Since some people are having trouble understanding what this is I will say that the lever is like a gear on a gear and the ramp at the end of the lever, lets consider the ramp at the very end of the lever the slanted line at the end of the lever is in fact a ramp and it is blocking the lever so that it acts on the gear as an outer rim. Other people have used outer rims to push on levers. This is just able to make your lever used on the gear attached to the gear any distance long. It could be infinite. If the 90 degree rotation of this gear were lifting something it would lift it a fractionally lighter amount. It could be very lightly lifted. And it's gear on gear action so you deduct the distance from the secondary axle or gear distance to the main wheel's axle and add the distance from the lever to the outer rim or ramp and you can push into the axle of the secondary gear (the gear on the gear) and you can rotate a weight into position with that force lightly lifting the weight up. I am not perfect with words right now but is nobody going to say anything about this except JUBAT? And he doesn't understand yet.
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I'm interested in learning your diagram and understanding it, but I'm sorry I just don't grasp it. Can you just draw a wheel with an inner and outer rim and put your design into that? Of course if you don't want me to understand it, then I'll just throw up my arms and move on, but since I understand most designs, when I run across one I just don't grasp, I'd like to learn it. What more can I say?
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JUBAT wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:13 am I'm interested in learning your diagram and understanding it, but I'm sorry I just don't grasp it. Can you just draw a wheel with an inner and outer rim and put your design into that? Of course if you don't want me to understand it, then I'll just throw up my arms and move on, but since I understand most designs, when I run across one I just don't grasp, I'd like to learn it. What more can I say?
Think of this me helping you...get your defense ready. Thinking it in your head is not the same as printed proof and that's what the jury will want to see.

I strongly suspect you're soon to be faced with the reality that you can't find printed proof because your dreams are just that...dreams.
LOOOOOSSSEEER. Don't build anything you loser. Jubat "talks" "wheel". I have no idea how a wheel can work. I have no authority because
I don't have a working wheel. I believe in Jubat and his friends. Hey tarsier and waltzcee, this guy is an idiot for having an idea. Let's save him
from his ignorance! We can heckle him and tell him what a loser he is. After all, it can't work so why waste time considering it?
I just wonder if I'm a "real" American now.
Just curious, as Jubat said, stupid people can always fall off of a windmill. I think this guy should. Why should he live with his ignorance? Just
repeating advice given in this forum to me. And since I am like you Jubat, if a doctor won't operate on me without a working wheel then I don't deserve
to have a life. oyvvus says I am like you. If you don't need surgery then neither do I.
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The only dude I know who has a picture of himself on a computer screen.

What the hell?

Also proof that he simply just cannot behave himself and is a source of constant trouble and problems. Not interested in having peaceful relations with others at all. What a horrible human being.
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I truly don't understand what Jon is trying to show and I'm trying to learn and figure it out. I think you calling me a loser in all caps is the definition of hating on someone who is trying to learn and maybe build. Quit the name-calling. A guy your age should know better and for someone in the early 60s, acting a man-child is unbecoming.

As a side note, I don't care about anything you build and that's why I don't ask you and so does nobody else.

My friend at the VA just started working in mental health on the 2nd floor. I highly recommend you go for an evaluation. You can tell them how you jumped a sub.
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JUBAT wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:50 am The only dude I know who has a picture of himself on a computer screen.

What the hell?
And yet the blinds are on the left and not the right. How did he get my living room wrong?
And facing the stairs to my bedroom.....
I noticed he reversed imaged the picture of my living room yet I have no couch? Really? He took the picture off of my Google
account. And now I will have to delete everything online. I will delete my online presence. After I demonstrate a working wheel, my
YouTube channel will be deleted as well. I simply will have nothing online.

Just an FYI, most cameras show a reversed image. If you watch videos on YouTube, how often are logos spelled as a mirrored
reflection? With the phone I have now, it correctly shows the blinds are on the left.

In this video short on YouTube, notice that behind her the word poison is a mirror image. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CVSMLDj5bIU
Cameras differ and Jubat just got caught photoshopping my pictures online to cyberstalk me which is legal in the U.S. and in this forum.
And yet I could be banned but never him because he doesn't build. When watching her video, everything is basically backwards. Her "poison"
image is on her right or our left.
And now I can ask why is he using pictures of me from 2021 to harass me? And as he said, last image. And yet he wanted me to talk "wheel" with him.
Read the last image and notice how he said I can only be an authority on the subject if I have a working wheel. That means that he is ignoring both of my builds that are in progress. They simply mean nothing because they don't work. That they are finished does not matter.
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Anyway Jon - ignore the mentally ill.

Your graphic shows a lever with 2 lines over to a circle with 2 smaller circles on it.

You mention an infinite leverage to an outer rim. Is this like the Bessler grindstone allusion where there is an inner and outer rim and they are independent of each other?
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It because people move furniture all the time Lindgaard. I wish you knew how to just be a decent human being. I've tried to reason with you and you are insolent and rebellious. There are words for people like you and they can't be spoken, but that photo of your head overlaid on an x-ray is coming to mind. I have the lowest opinion of you of anyone I've ever had. You're a rotten individual and it's for actions like this why you should be banned. I don't know why you haven't been banned yet and why you insist on coming back to this forum to bother us with your diatribe.

By gum though, I think you solved the wheel. Just look at that glint in your eye. This is what the camera taped to your wheel will see.

And now I can ask why do you harass me by calling me a loser when I wanted to inquire of Jon about his diagram?
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JUBAT wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:19 am
UbWe wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:04 am
JUBAT wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:50 am The only dude I know who has a picture of himself on a computer screen.

What the hell?
And yet the blinds are on the left and not the right. How did he get my living room wrong?
And facing the stairs to my bedroom.....
I noticed he reverse imaged the picture of my living room yet I have no couch? Really? Where
did that disappear to?
It because people move furniture all the time Lindgaard. I wish you knew how to just be a decent human being. I've tried to reason with you and you are insolent and rebellious. There are words for people like you and they can't be spoken, but that photo of your head overlaid on an x-ray is coming to mind. I have the lowest opinion of you of anyone I've ever had. You're a rotten individual and it's for actions like this why you should be banned. I don't know why you haven't been banned yet and why you insist on coming back to this forum to bother us with your diatribe.

By gum though, I think you solved the wheel. Just look at that glint in your eye. This is what the camera taped to your wheel will look like.

And now I can ask why do you harass me by calling me a loser when I wanted to inquire of Jon about his diagram?
It's okay Jubat. You'll be responsible for a cyber stalking law in the U.S. that does not exist. I think your post proves my point while oyvvus said we
were grooming each other. And since it is legal for you to stalk me I'll avoid this forum where they support you Alan.

p.s., Do you still want my "daddy's" phone number? He doesn't like it when I don't do what grownups want. And your shop is used for what?

And oyvvus, care to keep supporting your friend? Everybody in here likes him except for me. I'm the problem and not him. And now you know
who you support as all people do in this forum. Alan, these are your people and they both love and support you.
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Cyberstalking involves a heck of a lot more than just copying and pasting a few photos from facebook.

All I've ever asked of you is to be decent and back up your claims and it's somehow impossible for you.

I'm not AB Hammer and you are a horrible human being. You thrive on negativity and constant riling up of individuals. This is how the devil himself likes it to be.

I've given it my best shot to try and be peaceable and start anew with you and you simply refuse.

I recall another individual recently said in another thread: Go F@#$ yourself.

You won't avoid this forum and you won't quit posting and you've claimed you would do both. I also don't want any of your filthy grooming sexual talk.

Disgusting.

On a positive note, I hope your finger heals up but do yourself a favour - don't stick it in the router again. I guess if you can't afford $80, a lawsuit is pointless. No point in winning when the indigent can't pay the settlement. Lot's of talk with absolutely no tangibles to show for it.

I gotta go - that spinning picture makes me dizzy.
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JUBAT wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:06 am Cyberstalking involves a heck of a lot more than just copying and pasting a few photos from facebook.

All I've ever asked of you is to be decent and back up your claims and it's somehow impossible for you.

I'm not AB Hammer and you are a horrible human being. You thrive on negativity and constant riling up of individuals. This is how the devil himself likes it to be.

I've given it my best shot to try and be peaceable and start anew with you and you simply refuse.

I recall another individual recently said in another thread: Go F@#$ yourself.

You won't avoid this forum and you won't quit posting and you've claimed you would do both. I also don't want any of your filthy grooming sexual talk.

Disgusting.

On a positive note, I hope your finger heals up but do yourself a favour - don't stick it in the router again. I guess if you can't afford $80, a lawsuit is pointless. No point in winning when the indigent can't pay the settlement. Lot's of talk with absolutely no tangibles to show for it.

I gotta go - that spinning picture makes me dizzy.

You're losing it Alan. And yet these guys support you. I just wonder why you spell favor with a "u". Are you Tarsier 79? It's strange though, you
wanted me to talk "wheel" like ab hammer. Is your usage of "favour" a red herring meant to make me think you're either British or Australian?
And all I asked was for you to leave me alone but you refused. A song for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpR2v98qZGE

And Alan, you need to remember that I was willing to work with you. I didn't need Bessler's Wheel to be about me, I was willing to share credit
with people who were willing to work with me. I'm not a "real" American and in Norway, to realize Bessler's Wheel a Norwegian would say "not bad".
Norway was occupied by the 3rd Reich so you can understand it's not like the U.S. where Trump could become the next president despite his
being charged with at least 78 counts. Just wouldn't happen in Norway.
What you can do is just work with the people in this forum. I have Bessler's Wheel and you guys can talk about it to people who visit this forum after
I make it known. That's the best I can do. But you guys need to learn something about how his clues relate to his wheel. They need to accept that they allowed for your behavior. They can purge this forum so what we're discussing doesn't become public knowledge.
They need to accept that they supported you when they shouldn't have. And I have my life to live. And with Einstein and Newton, that might be
like the IPCC. The IPCC says we need to lower CO2 emissions while they're relying on the historic levels of 3 greenhouse gasses to continue
increasing. And Alan, you know I suspected you while these guys didn't. Just try discussing things with them, you might find they'll like you.
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A master troller with the biggest “Fish On” he ever caught.
Or
Multiple personality disorder mixed with schizophrenia.
What goes around, comes around.
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daxwc wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:25 am A master troller with the biggest “Fish On” he ever caught.
Or
Multiple personality disorder mixed with schizophrenia.
I guess my builds give me away, right? It's not like I'm posting someone's online images to harass them.
Can you tell me who has actual builds to show? And yet you support someone searching me online to use
anything I have online against me.
When you fail to mention the person attacking me you're talking about me.

Alan, this is an example of how much they like you. My builds allow for "Multiple personality disorder mixed with schizophrenia."
And you don't build and they like you.
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90 degree path on gear and infinite possible lever example3.png
The two lines are unrelated actually. I space dotted the second line so you know that it's not necessary - it only shows where the path ends. The lever starts on the ramp and then rolls upwards. The small circles are a rotating fulcrum or axle. that can be used to as a gear move something on the wheel. If you do something like that - something that allows you to move a lever against an outer block or rim or ramp here, you have to deduct the distance between the second axle and the main axle on the wheel as counter leverage. So you need the longer lever that this 90 degree - it's a dual 90 degree movement, in that the main wheel turns 90 degrees and so does the secondary axle on the wheel. I will explain further just ask now.
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