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preoccupied wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:11 am 90 degree path on gear and infinite possible lever example3.png

The two lines are unrelated actually. I space dotted the second line so you know that it's not necessary - it only shows where the path ends. The lever starts on the ramp and then rolls upwards. The small circles are a rotating fulcrum or axle. that can be used to as a gear move something on the wheel. If you do something like that - something that allows you to move a lever against an outer block or rim or ramp here, you have to deduct the distance between the second axle and the main axle on the wheel as counter leverage. So you need the longer lever that this 90 degree - it's a dual 90 degree movement, in that the main wheel turns 90 degrees and so does the secondary axle on the wheel. I will explain further just ask now.
Symmetry of motion needs to be separated from the overbalanced and under balanced sides. What Newton said;
https://www1.grc.nasa.gov/beginners-gui ... of-motion/

His 1st law of motion states that;
an object in motion remains in motion at constant speed and in a straight line unless acted on by an unbalanced force.
Sometimes this is stated as an external force. Basically something that is not a part of the wheel needs to shift the weight. Without an
external force changing the motion of the wheel then we're discussing the laws of thermodynamics and a bound system which is the wheel
itself. An external force allows a wheel to become a part of the Earth's gravitational energy similar to the gravity assist;
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/basics/primer/
Why perpetual motion is a challenge but is not impossible.
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Ubwe something that Newton omitted in his research is structural and mechanical advantage intermixing their roles because of levers. It follows all of his rules but uses levers in ways that have unique effects on their forces.

There are multiple anti force or anti gravity levers systems. Levers can block forces, reduce forces, and suspend forces different against the opposing force where the input force gets a different force than the output force is suspending. First blocking forces we all know that a truss can make a system stronger. Reduce forces is like this long lever shared with my idea and how it will help with making an overbalanced wheel. Also, Jesus Christ used a truss to walk on water and Hermes used the same truss to run on air. Something so powerful it would change warfare as we know it, you would have unlimited blocking power and bullets would become useless and laser weapons would see their heyday finally. Suspending forces against the opposing force where the input force gets a different force than the output force is just the crowbar dolly. Yahweh used the crowbar dolly to build the pyramids in Egypt. Then later he flooded the Earth using an x shaped machine and freed the Jews. My role as a copy of Yahweh was to fight Jupiter giants millions of years ago who killed the dinosaurs and might have eaten the planet by swallowing Earth whole like Galactus in DC Comics if I didn't intervene. I used the Jewish community as a base of operations as I time traveled to the giants and fought them off one by one. The crowbar dolly suspends the weight such that it pushes down on the ground lighter. The gear train suspends the weight on one end and it's lighter on the axle and on the ground as you hold the weight lightly by the lever rising on one side. This is because the weight rests on many many levers or gears. Imagine having a lever attached to a lever infinitely and a weight on one end but it's just suspended there and you aren't lifting it. I'll draw an example,
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The crowbar dolly is actually public domain now because i didn't have resources to patent it and I posted it a long time ago. I have fucking brain damage man. I might have made a full recovery but my mind and actions have been lazy and I am dumb. I don't have access to my investment bank and I don't know what happened to it yet. I didn't have resources to build a prototype or patent any of my ideas.
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And you don't build and they like you.
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Ain't it great? Don't treat people like a jerk and they respond kinder. Nobody can respect a wheel builder that acts like an asshole.

I'm also not AB Hammer.
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JUBAT wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:20 pm
And you don't build and they like you.
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Ain't it great? Don't treat people like a jerk and they respond kinder. Nobody can respect a wheel builder that acts like an asshole.

I'm also not AB Hammer.
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Alan, you've attacked and stalked me for 18 years not allowing me to post with anyone online. It's like oyvvus said, it's a beautiful
thing you grooming me to talk "wheel" with you. This means no surgery and I'll be suffering while I have to be pleasing to you. And like
you told me 15 or so years ago, you will control my soul. How many accounts are you using? 2? Or is it more like 3 or 4? But you're
allowed to use multiple accounts to dominate me. And as you just said Alan, they like you because you're stalking me. You are the only
person in the world I can talk to because even in a woodworking forum the moderator will say be personally pleasing to Alan while he
moderates you and controls everything you say. I think it will make news when I move out of the U.S. to get away from you. And I find it
disturbing when I have 2 builds that I'm working on and you say I have no authority to think I know what can work. And this is so everyone
will see that you are better than me.
Alan, if you were completely anonymous I doubt you'd be allowed to groom me. After all, I'm not a broken soul, I'm someone who wants
to be able to enjoy building and talk about my work and how it relates to Bessler's work. And I can claim authority when you said I can't. I
have done the work so when you say I can't say I've learned anything is wrong on your part. That'd be you controlling me.
It's like in the one woodworking forum where you wanted to get to know me. You never asked about what I was building and what woodworking
techniques I was using, you wanted to know me "personally". And yet I was in that woodworking forum to maybe get advice from other
people who did woodworking. And when I mentioned I wanted to build something for a woman serving in the U.S. Navy as an officer and
to tell the people serving in Iraq and Afghanistan I hope you all come home safely, you said that was the wrong answer. And then I got
banned for trolling you.
And it's just as you told me in the attached image, I can only conjecture and cannot say how something can be built out of wood just as
Bessler did 300 years ago. I need to be able to say that I learned something while serving in the U.S Navy and having schooling for and
working in an engine room but you will not allow me to talk about having served in the Navy and you will not allow me to use being a disabled Veteran
as a crutch to have a life in the U.S.
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I don’t know what is going on here anymore. Jubat doesn’t seem truthful as he seems to know more about the forum history than he should. Jubat is definitely not ABhammer. Looks like to me maybe Jubat and UbWe are the same person. Wish they still had the IP address on the threads. If you were running a different user name before Jubat who was it?
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daxwc wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:21 pm I don’t know what is going on here anymore. Jubat doesn’t seem truthful as he seems to know more about the forum history than he should. Jubat is definitely not ABhammer. Looks like to me maybe Jubat and UbWe are the same person. Wish they still had the IP address on the threads. If you were running a different user name before Jubat who was it?
I build and have 160 videos uploaded to YouTube. I don't show all of them. And
I I think myself, thx4 and robinhood46 are the only people in this forum who build.
Alan has always tried to control me and said that he had this same problem with his X.O. in
the Coast Guard. He told me the V.A. Medical Center helped him to deal with that issue.
And if you look at the thread "Do Water Wheels Work? Right away waltzcee who is also
anonymous took the thread off topic. And when I tried discussing specific things that
suggests that Bessler used water and bellows then Jubat said that I can speak with no
authority since I don't have a working wheel and I can only throw out "conjecture" to be
considered. And the attached image are 2 builds in progress.
What I wonder is why am I allowed to be harassed when I am discussing my work. I've
noticed that no one is harassed to the extreme like I am in that it is described as "grooming"
me. I don't need to be "groomed" , does that mean married to? when I have my work.

My channel;
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6p2S0 ... j46qVXnHXg

Some of my videos;
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JukjoI8C8vY
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/60RVKQBR1zM
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/maGwsVK43fM
And from 2016;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNGw46sG6EA
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Dr When derailed & wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:48 pm Mt 84, Mt 85 and Mt 86 are 3 consecutive MT drawings. If Bessler arranged them this way then does that agree with the 3 crosses he
put in his drawing of his Bi-directional Wheel at Merseburg, Germany?
  • And yet "heckling" has pretty much killed Bessler. After all, until
    Bessler can prove he ult a working wheel he is a fraud. Those are the forum rules.

And why do 3 crosses together or 3 drawings together matter when the drawings have the freemason symbol in them? MT 85 doesn't
but MT 86 has 2 so MT 84 has 1, MT 85 has 0 and MT 86 has 2 which equals 3.
  • Jubat, AB Hammer, Tarsier79 and waltzcee, does it even
    matter? Only you guys can tell. Bessler was a fraud because he doesn't have a working wheel. Forum Rule #1, no working wheel, you are
    a fraud.
And anymore I don't care because this is a waste of time.
  • Native English speakers killed this subject and yet they're "Christians".
And 3
crosses and 3 drawings aren't a working wheel.
  • After all, what are 3 crosses about? Thieves get caught maybe?

I did add Mt 125 because it shows how bellows can pump water by opening and closing. It also has a Freemason's symbol in it.

p.s., The Freemasons require a member to profess faith in God. And with Mt 84, note what is at its axle location as in drawings of Bessler's
Wheels and is used on grindstones that use a treadle to power them.
  • And it's the "credible" people in this forum that makes me "believe" things will go better in Europe but not England.
Bored chemist sends his love & is waiting for the email.
  • I was "heckled" at
    thenakedscientists.com (Oxford University) for explaining why ice ages and inter-glacial periods happen. Isn't that the way it should be?
  • Discuss science in a science forum and the native English speakers will "heckle" you.
p.s.s., Can a 4 to 1 leverage pump water when a weight is swinging downward?
  • I wouldn't know. I know 4 people who do know. And if they say
    nothing then I'll say nothing. I know I'll be wrong so why bother, right? It's like did Bessler have a bi-directional wheel? I can't say that he did.
    All this shows is that when "heckling" was supported it ruined this forum.

You had your day. No one heckled the OP, & the OP derailed the topic with the first post!
Dr When falsely wrote:Right away waltzcee who is also
anonymous took the thread off topic.
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waltz we, I did save your post where you claimed that when I was a church youth group when I was 13 or 14 that I sodomized and molested other kids in that youth group.
That’s a serious accusation but is acceptable behavior in this forum. And yet if I try to discuss my work or Bessler’s work I’m a problem.
And that’s right up there with Alan Bauldree and Stefan Hartmann of Berlin, Germany saying I killed someone. And to be “saved” Alan Bauldree will teach me how I can talk so I won’t be a “jerk” to him.
And as “Jubat” said he got people to like him and now I have to like him. I think that describes Human Trafficking.
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So what I shared wasn't important to you guys? You know those levers connected to levers make the axles lighter the more levers you have so the lever at the end where the force is pushing down has anti-gravity on the ground. The weight is given to the levers themselves in the form of structural energy that the levers manage by being levers. If you wanted to create a gravity wheel using this method of anti gravity you could simply have a cup that holds a weight in the anti gravity lever and let it roll out of it when it's on the driving side of the wheel. Like the first lever has normal weight on the axle but if you connect it to a series of levers the more levers you have the lighter it is in the form of anti gravity. I've already proven this a long time ago in my personal experiments when I was younger. And time travel duplicate of mine Yahweh in ancient Egypt used it to help build the pyramids. Multiple axles create anti gravity if they all push into the ground because the levers suspension of the weight. Like pulleys magically make the strings more resilient by distributing the weight among many string connections and levers with multiple axles connected to the ground suspend the weight applied to the ground.

Ubwe, why would you work on your own designs when I am basically enlightening you on all of the solutions? Likewise somebody has got to find this interesting. Am I alone in thinking this is interesting? If JUBAT and Ubwe are the same person they are causing a lot of chaos. I tire of your bickering. EbWe apologize to JUBAT and JUBAT apologize to UbWe. A powerful man is offended by nothing. If I were rich and infinitely powerful why wouldn't I be happy? If someone crossed my path and stole an apple from my apple tree would I condemn him as a thief or would I let it pass because I have fields of these things. You are both covetous of the circumstances and you should show a little humility. If you were second graders making jokes at each others expenses would you be one of those kinds of kids that takes it personally or would you laugh and jest all day at every little thing for fun like a kid. Find your inner child that the powerful man in you wants to be. I don't care if they steal from my apple tree. Look at me, giving advice with brain damage. Doh! Somebody please chime in on my ideas like Fletcher or Tarsier79 or Jim_Mich rest in peace.
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daxwc wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:21 pm I don’t know what is going on here anymore. Jubat doesn’t seem truthful as he seems to know more about the forum history than he should. Jubat is definitely not ABhammer. Looks like to me maybe Jubat and UbWe are the same person. Wish they still had the IP address on the threads. If you were running a different user name before Jubat who was it?
I've done a lot of reading on this forum since I joined earlier this year. I noticed one asshole in particular...this Lindgaard fellow and he has caused trouble for a long time. You guys forget that all the posts are here and you can research and read in depth certain usera posts. I've taken a liking to WC's posts and Fletch' s sims. I also like path_finder's posts. I've read John Collins blog.

I'm a person that doesn't take crap from anyone. Just the other night I was taking the better half out to eat and as we slowed down to turn into the cafe, the bastard behind me honked and was pissed. I even signaled! I asked the missus if we should go deal with them and she said yes. I chased 'em down to the Wal-Mart parking lot and asked them in a loud voice if they had a fricken problem? They were so surprised they rolled up their windows and booked it out of town.

I call people out on their bullshit. I can tolerate a lot, but when even I have tried to be nice to Lindgaard and he thinks he is so smart by calling me Alan, he is so wrong. He's like a bad smell..a dead mouse in your boot...you can't ignore it but removing the mouse from the boot always works to fix the problem.

Speaking of old posts, jim_mich was a dude I wished I would have gotten to know. Man he tried hard. I wish he could have gotten some resolution to his quest.

I even offered to start anew with JL predicated on him not calling me Alan. Then when i asked you Jon to explain your wheel...he jumped in and called me a loser. JL has no interest in keeping the peace on this forum and as long as he is allowed to cause trouble, I'll be right there defending the forum and myself. Once he stops, the inappropriate behaviour, then I won't have to continually defend myself and correct JL. Don't worry about who I am. It makes no difference. I'm in the mood to share my latest brainstorm, but as long as JL is allowed to continue, I'll hold off. I want to engage with Jon about his infinite lever idea, but if JL is going to be allowed, then I'll just wait until he is banned or straightens up...whatever comes first.

WC has found some old posts from JL that are pretty vile. He is certainly something that reminds me of a human fungus.
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preoccupied wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:24 pm So what I shared wasn't important to you guys? You know those levers connected to levers make the axles lighter the more levers you have so the lever at the end where the force is pushing down has anti-gravity on the ground. The weight is given to the levers themselves in the form of structural energy that the levers manage by being levers. If you wanted to create a gravity wheel using this method of anti gravity you could simply have a cup that holds a weight in the anti gravity lever and let it roll out of it when it's on the driving side of the wheel. Like the first lever has normal weight on the axle but if you connect it to a series of levers the more levers you have the lighter it is in the form of anti gravity. I've already proven this a long time ago in my personal experiments when I was younger. And time travel duplicate of mine Yahweh in ancient Egypt used it to help build the pyramids. Multiple axles create anti gravity if they all push into the ground because the levers suspension of the weight. Like pulleys magically make the strings more resilient by distributing the weight among many string connections and levers with multiple axles connected to the ground suspend the weight applied to the ground.

Ubwe, why would you work on your own designs when I am basically enlightening you on all of the solutions? Likewise somebody has got to find this interesting. Am I alone in thinking this is interesting? If JUBAT and Ubwe are the same person they are causing a lot of chaos. I tire of your bickering. EbWe apologize to JUBAT and JUBAT apologize to UbWe. A powerful man is offended by nothing. If I were rich and infinitely powerful why wouldn't I be happy? If someone crossed my path and stole an apple from my apple tree would I condemn him as a thief or would I let it pass because I have fields of these things. You are both covetous of the circumstances and you should show a little humility. If you were second graders making jokes at each others expenses would you be one of those kinds of kids that takes it personally or would you laugh and jest all day at every little thing for fun like a kid. Find your inner child that the powerful man in you wants to be. I don't care if they steal from my apple tree. Look at me, giving advice with brain damage. Doh! Somebody please chime in on my ideas like Fletcher or Tarsier79 or Jim_Mich rest in peace.
preoccupied, if you look at both of my builds, an external force acts to change the motion of a weight. Newton's 1st law of motion;
An object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.
Using Bessler's Wheel as an example, his peacock's tail is an unbalanced or external force because it changes the motion of a weight.
And at a 4 to 1 ratio it will use 1/2 of the force of 1 weight that is swinging down. This is because 2 weights are being lifted. And if you read what Jubat
posted to me, I am clearly violating what he'll allow me to talk about.


Jubat told me he will only allow me to discuss conjecture. That means he doesn't want me to build anything. Otherwise I'd be
allowed to discuss my work. I'll stay out of here because this way you guys can enjoy Jubat's warm personality and his wonderful friendship.
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Ah, the classic speaking with authority offending people. That is a classic response to a boast of success here. Don't take it too seriously UbWe. Critics are not your enemy. Gravity is your enemy. I think that JUBAT said that as a trigger to someone boasting success and did not mean it literally in all seriousness to not to build. He might not be precise in language, he could have said please open dialog about the schematics Love long a prosper I am Logical but not everybody is a Vulcan. Honestly, you are all kind of cold to me. I wouldn't say anybody here represents a warm personality. Imagine the drivel I would be sharing the cussing like a sailor you would see from me if it were allowed in the forum. Because I don't have respect here.
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Thank you James. I appreciate the compliment and your absence.

Okay Jon...back to your picture of the stack of crowbars....

Am I correct in saying that stack of levers is balanced? The weight of the long side of the bar is trying to go down, but the opposing force holds it up.

If I still haven't grasped it, then I'll go back and read it again.

I would agree Jon you haven't gotten the warmest welcome and some of the things you say are so bizarre I think you are nuts sometimes. But you know what? I don't see you've ever been an ass to anyone. I can respect that.

Your latest idea looks plausible and I want to try and understand it and not write it off. Thats all... no more no less.
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>Jubat told me he will only allow me to discuss >conjecture. That means he doesn't want me to build >anything.
False and lies. I've encouraged you in other threads to build and share ideas without all the extra bullschmidt numerous times.
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preoccupied wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:08 pm Ah, the classic speaking with authority offending people. That is a classic response to a boast of success here. Don't take it too seriously UbWe. Critics are not your enemy. Gravity is your enemy. I think that JUBAT said that as a trigger to someone boasting success and did not mean it literally in all seriousness to not to build. He might not be precise in language, he could have said please open dialog about the schematics Love long a prosper I am Logical but not everybody is a Vulcan. Honestly, you are all kind of cold to me. I wouldn't say anybody here represents a warm personality. Imagine the drivel I would be sharing the cussing like a sailor you would see from me if it were allowed in the forum. Because I don't have respect here.
preoccupied, build something before you comment again, okay? That's the problem in this forum. Those who don't build make the rules.
I will save your post. And then if my build works, everyone will know you support Jubat who like you has no work to show. When you say'
That is a classic response to a boast of success here.
I should hate the idea I'm working on? Really? I have to say I have no clue what I'm talking about while I am building something? And yet you guys
don't build because you don't understand Newton's laws of motion. Instead you discredit the person building. That means the purpose of this forum
is not to realize Bessler's Wheel. And I've noticed Jubat, waltzcee and ab hammer have not "heckled" while I say trolled robinhood46 and thx4 who live
in France. That does show a bias against me. And with what I mentioned to you, it is what Bessler described. I can't talk about Bessler's own work without
it being considered a boast? Are you being serious? It'd be best for me to stay out of this forum. Then I can enjoy my work. And I think with me,
because I am 1/2 Norwegian and live in the U.S., it is why I am treated differently. You know, if I'm an American then you guys would've worked with me instead of against me. After all, when waltzcee accused me of molesting children in church when I was 13 or 14 and that's not a problem? I do believe
it's that I'm not a "real" American.
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