Impact is the Key

[nicbordeaux]

It won't work.

[Grimer]

You're a brave man to put your head up above the parapet, Nic.

[11Turion]

Here is my contribution. Something I am working on.
http://www.youtube.com/user/11Turion?fe ... hdT950dcvQ

[getterdone]

Welcome to the forum turion, you're obviously a man of action

[FunWithGravity2]

A first post with a clear intent and sharing, welcome to the forum. Your build quality seems to be quit good, keep up the good work. Alot can be learned from devices such as the one you are building and expereimenting with, follow all possible avenues through to conclusion and surely something must happen.


If you want feedback just ask.



Dave

[Grimer]

Here is my contribution. Something I am working on.
http://www.youtube.com/user/11Turion?fe ... hdT950dcvQ

Welcome to the forum, 11Turion. An interesting first post.

I sometimes wish I'd been an experimenter and not a theoretician. I'm sure they have more fun than I do with pencil and paper - or rather keyboard, screen and mouse.

[11Turion]

I would appreciate any and all input.

I am taking my builds in three different directions. The first is evidenced by the video I included in my last post. I like the idea of the torque that different weights exert against each other at a focal point. The location of that focal point, the length of the two different arms, and the weight at the end of each give me enough variables to play with for a long time. I like that gravity will reset the weights to their original positions.

The second build is based on a conversation with Peter Lindemann and on his years of research on the Bessler Wheel. He believes, and evidence supports this, that the greatest force exerted is the impact of a falling weight. His belief is that the pendulum should be connected to the rim and the weight should fall when the pendulum is at the bottom of the wheel. I have this build completed, but have not been able to get it to run. No pictures or video of this one posted yet. I have yet to devise a means of ratcheting the weight back to the original position fast enough to get it to work.

The third build involves weights, imbalance, but no direct impact, so maybe this is not the right place for discussion of this build. The weight is near the hub and swings out to the rim when triggered by a cam. It swings back by its own momentum almost to the start point and overbalances the wheel on one side during that action. It is ratcheted back to the beginning by gravity. I have it drawn out and have built a ratchet mechanism that works, but have yet to put it all together on a wheel. The proof is in the pudding as they say, so I am working on getting this build completed. It is based on an early design by Peter Lindemann that I built which did not work, and I have made modifications I believe may make it successful. Only time will tell.

As there is no way to post pictures or drawings here that I know of, I will wait until I have a video posted to my YouTube account to share.

[FunWithGravity2]

Regarding this
"The second build is based on a conversation with Peter Lindemann and on his years of research on the Bessler Wheel. He believes, and evidence supports this, that the greatest force exerted is the impact of a falling weight. His belief is that the pendulum should be connected to the rim and the weight should fall when the pendulum is at the bottom of the wheel. I have this build completed, but have not been able to get it to run. No pictures or video of this one posted yet. I have yet to devise a means of ratcheting the weight back to the original position fast enough to get it to work."


I have never seen or heard of any of his ideas, where do you find them


Dave

[jim_mich]

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[Unbalanced]

Within the MT description of "No. 52: Bessler writes I will only say the following: no wheel is moved through strong blows, ."

- Johann Bessler

[aStillMoreGloriousDawn]

The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel by Peter Lindemann

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Dr ... Engine.pdf

[jim_mich]

Within the MT description of "No. 52: Bessler writes I will only say the following: no wheel is moved through strong blows, ."

- Johann Bessler

Yes, impacting weights will destroy a wheel.

There is a very simple method available to change impact into impulse. Simply have the moving weight impact against a spring. The spring absorbs the impact and dispenses a more controlled impulse. The difference between impact and impulse is time duration. As Bill says, "impacts are very lossy in terms of energy transfer." Impulses are much better in terms of energy transfer.

[ovyyus]

aStillMoreGloriousDawn,

In the Spring of 1999, Peter was nominated by the late Dr. Robert Adams of New Zealand for a Doctorate degree to the Board of Governors of the Open International University of Alternative Medicine in Colombo, Sri Lanka. After a 9 month review of past experience and published work, he was granted a Doctorate of Science degree (honorus causa) in Complimentary Medicine, based on his previous life work.

That's some long winded BS. As an ex-associate of Robert Adams and his Adams Motor Generator Company I can tell you that these 'Doctors' both obtained their letters from the same place: a cornflakes packet! I was offered the same by Bob back in 93-94, but could only laugh at the alt-energy career move 'golden opportunity'. Jesters in business suits selling snake oil, the lot of them. At least they didn't go the full monty like 'Professor' John Searl. Too funny :D

[aStillMoreGloriousDawn]

Ovyyus,

I was simply providing a source of information to Dave's question three posts before mine, in which he asked "I have never seen or heard of any of [Peter Lindemann's] ideas, where do you find them?" Notice I did not attach a doctoral prefix or suffix in my title.

Why do you bother bringing up the unrelated topic of Lindemann's study of "alternative medicine"? If it is to promote him as a looney, then the same holds true for all of us. Because, after all, a gravity wheel has been deemed "the impossible" by those who hold a real doctorate of science.

I think the article is worth reading. It covers the basic principles that anyone wishing to pursue a gravity engine should understand.. principles not every member here has conquered.

[ovyyus]

Notice I did not attach a doctoral prefix or suffix in my title.

It's in your link.

If it is to promote him as a looney...

Not at all, he's an intelligent snake oil salesman making a profit. Nothing looney about that. Nothing useful about that either. Sorry to digress.