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LustInBlack wrote:My personal theory, is to take observations into a chaotic formula and interpreting these observations as casual effect and trying to find the cause..
Ok...

What can I show you...

This is all the positive and negitive patterns in minimum quad sum

As shapes thay look closely linked.

-10 14
14-10

Is that the kind of stuff you mean?
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Ok, I don't have your background in magic square, so the value you posted don't mean much to me right now..

Where do they come from ?!

The number on top of your squares are Indexes right!? A way to tell, 833 is this shape ... ?

I see that you merge your lines/links to the center of the square, that those shapes looks like attractors and that they are nodes and anti-nodes..

This also reminds me of the patterns sand would make on an oscillating table depending on frequency..


However, I can't say what they mean, because I don't know the context in which you place them ...

It must be quite trivial for you however.. But I don't have your experience in magic squares..


Why are your nodes/anti-nodes linked like this?! ..

I understand that you match specific values together, and that you base your node/anti-node relative to a quadrant value. This value must be the sum of the parts in that quandrant .. Your second parameter must be an association on those parts that you line up together.

The context is still mysterious..
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Ok some background...

Over three hundred years ago Bernard Frenicle de Bessey (1602-1675) established there are 880 unique magic 4 squares.

When a=1 & b=a+1 minimum a^2+b^2=5. The sequence is the centre value and mean value of each cell in an odd magic 3 square. The second solution is 13 & is the centre value and mean value of each cell in an odd magic 5 square etc.

Not so the even magic squares. They demonstate that they have an additional same value constant solution.

Therefore when you reduce the the odd magic squares to 0 the only visible mass in a square is the 4 square 4 constants at 2.

The even magic squares when only integers are used have a constant of half their order.

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So at minimum c^2 = 5 when squared the mass inside is represented by 4^2. Add a Cwantum principle of see - double you and 5 equal lines doubled equal the frame of a 4 square when arranged in 2D.

In 3D 5 tetrahedron frames, looks like this...

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There are 3 tetrahedon frames that make the frame of 5.

The 4 within switches & have a frame, when they switch fast enough the become a Cwantum 2 Cube or the electron valance of neon.
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When dismantled and placed in 2D it can form
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Does that help?
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Opps double post.

To save on posts
Here is a constant file.

It details the magic square at the top.

On the left the constant is detailed.

In the sea of numbers are the start numbers and end numbers in the particular square to produce that whole number constant.

This file should just about fit and is from 3^2 to 100^2.
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Here is my 880 magic 4^2 summary as an excel file. It may give you an idea as to their organization. It details all 880 as normal quadrant sums. I have arranged them so 1 is always in the first quadrant.

As minimum quadrant sums,
34 34
34 34

would be
02 02
02 02

Note different constants share the value of other squares.
A constant value of 30 shares the following squares:

3^2(Start 6 end 14)
4^2(Start 0 end 15)
5^2(Start -6 end 18)
6^2(Start 5 end 5)
10^2(Start 3 end 3)
12^2(start -69 end 74)
15^2(start -110 end 114)
20^2(start -198 end 201)
30^2(start 1 end 1)
60^2(start -1799 end 1800)


If I manage to make a square wave generator I'm wondering if the higher sharing squares would attract some kind of 'higher' harmonic energy?


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Having problems with the knicker elastic - keeps getting caught in the square wave, it also inhibits the opening movement need another way to help start closing the wave before gravity does, it would be easier if the Pythagorean triangle was the second in the harmonic series 60, 60, 60. The displacement would be greater. The next would be 90, 90, 90.

If this works as I strongly suspect it will, I think a square wave generator would be appropriate.
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It looks like there is 3 small weights needed to transfer it's weight along the arm.

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So far so good, need to add 3 small equal weights a spring and stopps.

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...you have them backwards...lol, just a vision thing....


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Hi Ant and thanks a lot for sharing your ideas and pictures.

Can you please do me a favor by using the forums file attachment feature to upload your pictures, rather than just linking to them?

For one thing those links usually break, and also when you upload them then they show up properly in the Albums, which is a pretty handy feature.

Thanks,
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bluesgtr44 wrote:...you have them backwards...lol, just a vision thing....
Hi steve, I tried through the axle on the two armer, pointing outwards gives the whiplash effect.

Also if you open the wave up fully, when it's long enough, bend it and it looks like Scotts snake glyph.

Seven thick - the visible bands in a rainbow.
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Latest - stopps in place.
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Weights under construction...

Three Pythagorean Triangles on a stick.
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Well done. I love watching a build progress. Very exciting.
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Thanks for the feed back.

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Now with weights...
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