Bessler's Device Possibly

[christo4_99]

Here's the original thread on this subject:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=211

And one of my posts in it:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... =2484#2484

What particular "subject" are you referring to, the concept or the drawings/prints ?

[christo4_99]

I know many of you look at this particular design and just don't get it . So I guess since since I do understand it the burden lies on me to explain it well . First of all consider the pendulum without the augmenting weights . When the wheel is turned the liquid within the pendulum will rock back and forth and it will gradually come to a stop .Since it is basically balanced it will not take much force to turn the wheel . Now realize that the augmenting weights will contribute to this movement without any additional force being applied reason being it's still pretty much balanced and the augmentation only comes into play past the center point and because of that you have a device which will swing but "favors" the central position . When the liquid is not supporting the augmenting weights they are contributing to the inward swing which coincidentally is the direction which the device is moving regardless . Also at the end of the inward swing the liquid is supporting the opposing weight . In the next possible moment this liquid "must" move from under it . To me all of this sounds rather similar to how Bessler described his device .
To further elaborate on this concept the augmenting weight can be thought of as a mechanical switch . On and off depending on the direction of the swing of course alternately .

[eccentrically1]

I still don't see how the design turns the wheel. The animation has the wheel turning behind the pendulums and flail, at an steady rpm; but the pendulums are rocking in place, and the flail is oscillating in place, faster than the wheel. How are they connected to it?

When the pendulum/flail pulse as the animation shows, then the wheel has to pulse as well; unless there is a mechanical connection that governs the pulse.

[christo4_99]

In the animation the spokes are interacting with the pendulum and displacing it ... and vice versa . It is the pressure difference that you are not perceiving in my opinion ... the action of the whole device . The reason for the flail is to store the impulse and express it on the other side of the device even though it's connected . The flail is mounted centrally on the axle with a bearing ... it only interacts with the ends of the lever arms at the center .

[eccentrically1]

In my opinion, you need to make a drawing showing your design from a side view, with all the necessary connections,instead of trying to explain it in words. But what do I know, I'm just a parrot.

[christo4_99]

The connections you speak of are surface interactions between the parts . The only part that is rigidly connected is the pendulum itself . What is so hard for you to see that the flail interacts with the inside ends of the levers and the spokes interact with the round inward parts of the pendula ?

[christo4_99]

In my opinion, you need to make a drawing showing your design from a side view, with all the necessary connections,instead of trying to explain it in words. But what do I know, I'm just a parrot.

Just take whatever EC1 says as "nay" and move on . He's only convinced that being clever or wise or smart or inspired will never result in a perpetual motion design . He doesn't even have to try to argue indefinitely ... all of his precepts are already in place ...but actually they are not even his , they are just parroted over and over in places such as this . The net result of anything he can say is " don't even try ".

I never said you were a parrot , I said your precepts were parroted over and over .

[christo4_99]

Just for the sake of argument someone answer this :
How many designs have you seen that combine buoyancy ( and the lack of it) , coupled pendulums and a fluted axle along with a torque storage device?