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Leafy wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:41 am As far as I know no one ever built a runner so it doesn’t matter what or whose concept you use, it’s free for all. The worst is you give back to them some credit if it’s their idea but they couldn’t make it works and you could.
This is what has been contributed because I am 1/2 Norwegian. I'll have done the work by myself and am hated for it.
The concept does matter. It needs to fit Bessler's clues. Bessler built different wheels.
https://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopi ... =10&t=4656
And yet Bessler was arrested for being a fraud. He had witnesses who supported his work.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1301.3097

And yet ab hammer is a very credible person because he posted that perpetual motion is impossible. That he has many followers shows
that this forum is not about realizing Bessler's work. And when I have nothing to do with Bessler and his work, the credible people can
show why they're credible. They can start with "we're "pure" English speakers". Basically this is like replaying events after 1712 which led
to Bessler destroying his work. When I have nothing to do with Bessler's work, it'll basically be the same thing.
And it will be sad that with what I've been working through, I was still attacked. I can show where ab hammer attacked me for having cancer.
I was building and he wasn't so he attacked me. And his friend rlortie was there supporting him. And yet rlortie helped to financially support
this forum. So why attack a cancer patient? That will help to show how toxic this subject is because I am 1/2 Norwegian. That's white
supremacy. And I can show where much has been deleted by forum owners and moderators to make me look bad. They didn't want it
to be seen where I was willing to work with and discuss things with other people. They wanted it to look I was being attacked because I did
something instead of being attacked because I was using forums for their intended purposes.
Even oyvvus in ab hammer's thread said this but then wished I died from cancer. That is serious. I think people will get credit for what they
contributed. And leafy, when I move out of the US as a disabled Veteran of the US Navy, my being 1/2 Norwegian renders my serving the US
as meaningless. And when Australians support white supremacy, I think where I go I will be able to create jobs, etc.
I think the science I'm pursuing will make countries want me.
And I'll mention how Tesla
famously tore up his contract with George Westinghouse because he wasn't considered as deserving. He wasn't an American. His worth in the
U.S. was determined by what he could be exploited for. While that has made the U.S. the richest country in the world, even Rome fell.

The Peacock and it's tail is to be used at a 4:1 ratio. Sadly, Bessler's wheel is more about who gets credit and it's not Bessler.
As you said "As far as I know no one ever built a runner so it doesn’t matter what or whose concept you use, it’s free for all."
Do you consider Bessler's eyewitness accounts as being credible? Who Gottfried Leibniz was;
Summary
Gottfried Leibniz was a German mathematician who developed the present day notation for the differential and integral calculus though he
never thought of the derivative as a limit. His philosophy is also important and he invented an early calculating machine.
https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/B ... s/Leibniz/

He's one of the reasons why Bessler wasn't convicted of fraud when he was arrested for it. That is why Bessler destroyed his work and made
drawings and wrote books about it instead. And yet ab hammer keeps receiving credit for everything when he said perpetual motion is impossible.
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I’ve talked with those you mentioned. I think everyone in this forum believed in Bessler’s work. But you know, after a life time chasing perpetual motion and no success, one’s faith worn down. Your faith is too strong that’s why you’re still going while everyone want to rest. It’s no big deal, they loved you that’s why they criticized you for being overworked.

USA is like Rome Arena. It’s not for everyone. But eventually it’ll evolved into a chess tournament.
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Leafy wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:46 pm I’ve talked with those you mentioned. I think everyone in this forum believed in Bessler’s work. But you know, after a life time chasing perpetual motion and no success, one’s faith worn down. Your faith is too strong that’s why you’re still going while everyone want to rest. It’s no big deal, they loved you that’s why they criticized you for being overworked.

USA is like Rome Arena. It’s not for everyone. But eventually it’ll evolved into a chess tournament.

If everyone wants to rest then why are they here? When ab hammer posted to me that he is a "pure" American and I will
work for him, difficult to mistake that for being love. I did offer to work with agor95 as co-inventors and he said no. So it became
my invention.
And I'll be able to say that his wheel in a wheel got me to consider what I'm building because I had already considered using a
3 dimensional build. I also showed him the thread where I posted it.
And when you say my "faith" is too strong, why are you insulting the math that I've done? With what Bessler actually built, I showed the math.
That means no faith involved. As for the U.S., when Trump supporters tried overthrowing congress because he lost the election, what would
you call that? That is what Romans did. They fought for control of the senate. The mistake I made was in thinking that people would not want
a repeat of what happened to Bessler. Yet ab hammer told people to attack me until I give him my work. Why I am attacked.
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When people said it looks like ab hammer's wheel, they should've been saying agor95 if anybody.
Yet they said ab hammer. No love there.
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And while this build "didn't" work. A switch to tapered roller bearings might allow it to work. With the main axle, I thought
of a new design for roller bearings which I might try. I'd say Bessler built this and he couldn't get it working. He built a few different
wheels and they weren't all the same. With this build, I could connect the weights and use the peacock's tail but won't.
I'd try to explain the math but with my invention, the math is very basic yet no one seems to understand it. As for myself, a Dr. Jaski
at Utrecht University is open to the idea of doing a show displaying my work with Bessler's original book. And it's possible that I could
design low friction roller bearings that would allow this build to work using materials available 300 years ago.
Because it is engineering what needs to be considered is what engineering allows for. Have you ever considered that something like Conestoga
Wagons didn't use bearings but instead relied on grease to let the hub slide over the axle as it rotated.
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Well, I’m convinced that my math works 100% except for the runner, but I still considered myself faith.

You should offer Agor and AB to work for you, that’s what I would do. But, each of us is different.

I don’t see what’s the big deal with 1 design. With a PM principle, you can pretty much pump out a design a day. Well, kinda 1/week for me. Lol
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Hey, since you’re a builder why don’t you build for me. How much you want in payment?
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Leafy wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:27 pm Well, I’m convinced that my math works 100% except for the runner, but I still considered myself faith.

You should offer Agor and AB to work for you, that’s what I would do. But, each of us is different.

I don’t see what’s the big deal with 1 design. With a PM principle, you can pretty much pump out a design a day. Well, kinda 1/week for me. Lol

Can you show me your math? I consider it highly insulting. I find it odd how many people in here don't understand math or Newton's laws of motion.
And yet you say that anyone who considers math and science have "faith". That's why people consider using gravity as a source of energy to be a
crackpot idea.
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It’s just a differ of philosophy. I consider a runner is non faith. If I have math or even a working simulation, it’s still not manifest enough to satisfaction. But for me, math is enough. I don’t need a runner to feel happy.

Here check out my latest pendulum. Do you think it’ll swing forever? The math said yes.

I’ll pay you or others to build this pendulum if you’re interested. Fail or success, I don’t care.
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Leafy wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:06 pm It’s just a differ of philosophy. I consider a runner is non faith. If I have math or even a working simulation, it’s still not manifest enough to satisfaction. But for me, math is enough. I don’t need a runner to feel happy.

Here check out my latest pendulum. Do you think it’ll swing forever? The math said yes.

I’ll pay you or others to build this pendulum if you’re interested. Fail or success, I don’t care.

You're showing what a joke this is.
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Bird is a Word wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:11 pm


You're showing what a joke this is.
Why you insult me? Can you elaborate?
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Leafy wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:35 pm
Bird is a Word wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:11 pm


You're showing what a joke this is.
Why you insult me? Can you elaborate?
It's strange how you post like ab hammer. What ab hammer knows;
1 Corinthians 1:18; 18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written: ‘I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.’

Is that why you mentioned faith leafy? You are doing what the Bible says and ab hammer is a devout Christian who
knows EXACTLY what the Bible says and here you leafy are obedient to the scriptures.
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I don’t know what you mean. My design is probably too simple so you think it’s a joke.

Like Bessler “it’s not much of an artistry”. But can you see now? You’re AB Hammer and I’m you right now. I’m being ridiculed for my math even thought I took calculus 1, 2, 3, multidimensional calculus, differential equations…

Sin30 is just the opposite leg of the triangle while cos30 is the adjacent leg.
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With my invention, it might be able to supply emergency energy to Ukraine, And yet American Christians
got me fired from my job because I wanted to go to Odessa, Ukraine to meet a woman. They said that
Jesus doesn't allow for that.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-fires ... 12435.html

And this weekend I'll probably have the levers for the weights routed and all of the tabs cut to size and shape.
This will leave gluing panels together so I can have what I need for the frame. It is a lot of work and I think I'll
keep Ukraine in mind while I work. And I think with the design I made, I like it and it shows it has many parts
unlike someone else's design.
And with it modified to use gears and a gear rack, it will work even better. It'll be simple to build and it'll be easy
enough to hook a generator to it. If I can get it finished before Christmas then maybe Ukrainians might feel a
little better about their situation in that some of us will do what we can to help.
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There is little point saying what you might do with a wheel if you don't have one that works.

Improved bearings won't make it work. It is the base principle that is flawed.
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