Blood From Stone

[agor95]

Hi Gill Simo

It's good to know you are still in the land of the living.

Your concept has not gone away for it's part of some interesting out there theoretical field physics.

Nothing to do with Bessler Wheel and this forum of cause.

All the Best

[MrVibrating]

I rarely visit these days...ill health prevents mostly.
But that said I wouldn't be inclined regardless....& this 'ere thread is a perfect example as to why.
Soon be three years in the making & what an excess of endless & pointless drivel.
There is but one post that offers anything at all constructive to the cause...just ten or so replies in, from C/C to Mr V...

"You are just fooling yourself, not anyone else.
You become mesmerised by your walls of text and ignore the obvious.
Nothing happening here!"

That statement serves you all...it could be added to just about each & every thread that now sits in the archives.....just walls of text, nothing ever happening here...because you collectively fool yourselves & nobody else.

I must ask...is there seriously still not one amongst you all who can muster a glimmer of wisdom? Nobody who can grasp that every damn thing you know (& Lord above, don't you all just know so bloody much) is of zero use to you in this particular pursuit...because, as you all very well know, this particular pursuit is utterly impossible according to everything you know.

You're akin to a bunch of great car mechanics attempting ground-breaking brain surgery under some odd illusion that both are really quite similar in principle!

I can only assume that ego or the like is what prevents you all from applying basic common-sense to the matter at hand?

Enough basic, common-sense to see that the very notion that one could ever possibly make something possible by applying all impossibility to it ( the sum of your knowledge to date) is obscene in its stupidity.

Please!....stop now...year upon year upon year of proving to yourselves, over & over, that yes indeed, your knowledge is faultlessly correct...it's simply impossible...& yet refusing to believe it?

Sad buggers springs to mind people, sad to say.

What we seek is not in our knowledge database...like dah!...so obviously no marvel of our engineering is gonna suffice, is it now?
It's Enlightenment that's required here, not engineering.

Harsh but nonetheless true...if you're unable to grasp, fully appreciate & accept this most simple of wisdoms then you're simply out of your depth mentally & for all your doubtless good will & effort, of no use whatsoever to the cause.

If our current view (& let's not forget that it's nothing more than that) is correct then PM IS IMPOSSIBLE.
If you seek its possibility then you MUST, by all good logic, seek to change the current view.

Unlikely before I'm gone me thnks but perhaps someone can do me the favour of emailing me should anyone ever dare for just once to attempt such a thing here...something worth ever coming here for..just for once?

Gill

Ahem. open systems, vs closed, is the issue.

Again, the input energy cost of accelerating 1 kg by 1 m/s is half a Joule.

Likewise, 1 kg-m^2 by 1 rad/s.

You now have 1 kg-m/s, or 1 kg/m^2-rad/s, of momentum.

Maintain that energy cost of momentum for say ten successive accelerations, and you've spent 5 J.. yet you now have 50 J of KE. Such a system is thermodynamically open.

Hardly complicated or contrived, is it? Just a summing function (momentum) and a squaring one (kinetic energy).. ie. a straight diagonal plot, vs one that's curling upwards.. inevitably intersecting at some juncture.

That's what you call 'having a handle' on the problem.. the simplest maths, describing simple, easily-understood dynamics.

Not only is the problem not intractable, it's mathematically extremely straightforward.

Engineering that maths into a physical system however is obvs harder, yet Bessler obvs somehow achieved it. That's just a mathematical statement of fact, a foregone conclusion. Bessler's wheels paid less PE for their angular momentum than its resulting KE value. That's what mechanical OU is.. the only thing it can be.

Or else we're invoking magic & mystery..

And FWIW i didn't resurrect this old thread, and have long since narrowed my focus to decoupling per-cycle momentum yields from system RPM. Nobody's obliged to follow any of this, of course, and i'm sure we all respect your antipathy towards doing so.

[MrVibrating]

No you will not!!

I'm currently getting 1 day off a fortnight, and besides, my desktop died, and no time
for repairs, so FA chance o getting back into this for now.. it's still constantly on my
mind tho.. if i had the tools & time i'd still be at it..

Sorry to hear about your misfortune.

At times it's good to give something a rest. New ideas often times come to you.

Best of luck.

I'm fine mate, paying the rent and eating. Will be back at this before too long - i called my big brother to see if he had an old GPU i could borrow, and he's now sorted me the latest i5 (6 cores @ 4.2 GHz), 32 Gb, and a 1080 ti.

I'll slot it all together on my next day off, and i'm expecting at least a 200% performance boost over my old 1090t rig.. the thing should shred thru WM sims, can video-encode on-the-fly etc., gonna be awesome (for me at least).

So i now have the tools.. just need the time.. hopefully won't have to break a leg to get it. If i can just find a job slinging pizzas ten hours a day for say three days/week, i can cover the rent and still have four days/week for research. That, or street-sweeping, or whatever it takes to get some decent 'me' time..

"I'll be back.." ;)