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WaltzCee wrote:As you very well know the physics books say this is
impossible.
How do you know what 'this' is? No one knows what was inside Bessler's wheel.
WaltzCee wrote:It's easier not to confuse fact with opinion. For example
you're of the belief a gravity powered & driven wheel is
impossible...
How can someone know the difference between fact and opinion when they don't understand the subject?

I hold no such belief.
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1) Bessler studdied many many disciplines according to himself. I believe he wrote AP partly as a roadmap to onspiring PMM hunters. Not to necessarily follow his exact footsteps but as a guide to how he did it “and so can you!�
Regardless of intent rhats exactly what he did.

2) just curious ovyyus how you onow ehat all is detailed in besslers works perhaps you have cracked the code and are holding out on us?
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WaltzCee wrote:
Perhaps it's easier to feel things than it is to know things?
It's easier not to confuse fact with opinion. For example
you're of the belief a gravity powered & driven wheel is
impossible. I believe (think, feel, . . .) the jury's still out.

I can admit I don't know. Wanting to know drives me.
In a certain sense yes. In my life for example there are/were times when im sure im being lied to. Do i know the facts or truth not necessarilly but the facts as presented “dont add up� can i prove it in a court of law no but there are times ive staked more than my reputation on it. 100 percent right ?no but way more often then not. Full disclaimer my brother is a pathological liar.
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Johndoe2 wrote:2) just curious ovyyus how you onow ehat all is detailed in besslers works perhaps you have cracked the code and are holding out on us?
I'm not sure I understand the question. I don't assume there is a code to be cracked.
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I thought you werea code believer?
I definitely am!
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Now I'm curious too!!
- Does it make one's own assumptions less believable at the moment Ovyyus declares he actually has (let's say) a working PMM machine?
- When one is unable to differentiate between fact and opinion, what does that say about understanding in general?
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My 'feeling' is that Bessler would never intentionally disclose his secret, encoded or otherwise.
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Secrets imo there are multiple.
For example why some numbers are enclosed and others not.
Many many secrets (imo)
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ME wrote:- Does it make one's own assumptions less believable at the moment Ovyyus declares he actually has (let's say) a working PMM machine?
Probably, yes.

ME wrote:- When one is unable to differentiate between fact and opinion, what does that say about understanding in general?
It says 'get educated'.
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WaltzCee wrote:
look for clues in the physics books


Bessler was a bit handicapped.

As you very well know the physics books say this is
impossible.

You shouldn't deprive yourself of the knowledge
available in a lexicon or maybe a Strong's.
Let me try to explain a little better. I was using the Jesus quote as an analogy to what might be a similar situation in the scientific community.

Jesus was calling out lawyers who in their scriptures had the key of knowledge but who instead of understanding and following them hypocritically misused them and even misled others, too.

So, here we go...

In analogy, just because those who claim to be experts and speak for "science" pronounce that something is impossible doesn't necessarily mean that that is so or that there aren't already things in their books which would hint that their "impossible" thing actually is possible. ...maybe...

Anyway, I say it can't hurt to truly know your basic physics.

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Anyway, I say it can't hurt to truly know your basic physics.
True.
I say, you only need to draw.

A basic one-line scribble should be enough to understand why >99% of the design attempts fail...
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How about putting that to the test ME .. with a one-liner lol.

Then I'd pin it to my wall to remind myself to keep things simple.
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The dogs bark, the caravan passes???

Each one doing his WAY.

I am doing MY WAY!!!

No harm to others.

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Fletcher wrote:How about putting that to the test ME .. with a one-liner lol.

Then I'd pin it to my wall to remind myself to keep things simple.
My One liner

"This would much simpler if i didn't understand physics."

FWG :-)
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ME wrote:
Anyway, I say it can't hurt to truly know your basic physics.
True.
I say, you only need to draw.

A basic one-line scribble should be enough to understand why >99% of the design attempts fail...

you only need to draw a circle to understand why most designs don't work
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altitudine, quae sit quartae parti diameter aequalis ; habebit vim centrifugam suae
gravitati aequalem.
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