Re: Besslers wheel discovery


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Posted by Oystein Rustad (217.70.229.40) on October 02, 2001 at 02:13:12:

In Reply to: Re: Besslers wheel discovery posted by Scott Ellis on October 01, 2001 at 23:04:55:

I will keep reporting on this board....

Meanwhile read this web site :

nov55.com/ener.html

Something in the direction I have measured...
read the levers and fields closely !!!
Bessler : "Weights came to be placed together, arranged one against another" , (I am not 100% shure what Bessler ment by that). My testing indicates that he ment Weights on levers/ arms in a wheel. Eight arms is 4 pair...

Best regards
Oystein Rustad


: Oystein,

: No problem, I can see the diagram as you typed it in the
: textbox at the bottom of the page.

: I know you probably don't want to give too much away, but
: I don't really understand what the diagram is about.
: ??

: I'm glad you like the site. Let me know if you have any
: suggestions for it.

: I agree that we can rely pretty heavily on the eyewitnes
: accounts in judging the feasibility of a scheme. That
: and Maschinen Tractate provide a good focus for our efforts.

: I am glad to hear you are working on the mathematical aspects
: of this endeavor. The mathematical argument by Biddel Airy
: goes something like this:

: PM is not possible with the known forces because the expression
: Xdx + Ydy + Zdz is integrable "per se."
: In other words, the hypothesis of Conservation of Energy holds
: for any 3-dimensional field of force - i.e. for space as we
: know it. Since the expression above is a complete differential
: for all the known forces, PM is incompatible with those forces.

: In the above reasoning we presume that the magnitude of the
: force acting on a body at any instant depends on the position
: of the body at that instant. If however the magnitude of the
: force should depend on the position of the body at a prior
: instant, then the theorem would no longer be true.

: Each time a body returned to the same position, its velocity
: could be either higher or lower than the time before. If it
: were higher, it would increase until the force of friction
: held it constant.

: Airy attributes these ideas to Robert Willis. Willis was
: studying the human voice organ and did experiments with air
: passing over inclined plates. Remember that Bessler
: supposedly came upon the secret after working as a pipe organ
: apprentice.

: All for now,
: Best regards from Colorado

:
: : Hi Scott !

: : I believed that question would come!
: : Cool site by the way, I wish only more drawings etc. where on the net.
: :
: : In drawings and weighing etc. I can prove it, but not as an complete formula,YET (I have made an formula on this, but I don`t dare to let an mathemathics see it, YET. Have a math and physics professor in the family, that I hope will help me,but I must go gently ahed, not showing PM as a goal, he would laugh his brains out !

: : The summary is : Is it possible for an axle/arm to "feel" less weight moving an item from "bottom" to "top" than it originally would feel(or for exampl


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