Posted by SK (218.145.25.11) on May 13, 2003 at 00:50:26:
In Reply to: Re: Thankyou for your comments posted by ovyyus on May 12, 2003 at 19:19:35:
Hi
In my design in the 40 cm wheel, the difference, between all sum
of distance(torque) of weights from the center axis in the decending half and and ascending half is only few mili-meter by my calculation.
Thank you for your comment.
But I think there is no up-half component.
regards.
: Hi SK,
: Exactly! The total torque produced by the wheel was relatively small for its large size. I believe this was a significant factor in the difficulties experienced by Bessler in trying to sell his wheel.
: The greatest objection Bessler faced with his first 3 foot diameter wheel was that it was too weak to do any real work. Even his large wheels were often criticised over their percieved lack of power. I would not be expecting a very large torque on your 40 cm diameter wheel.
: In your design, will the wheel structure experience any forward reaction force against acceleration or movement of the internal weights? IMO, the reported high maximum wheel speeds can not be achieved by overbalance alone in a system of weights that rotate with the wheel. I believe some component (up to half) of total wheel torque must be reaction force against accelerated mass.
: Regards, ovyyus
:
: : Hi Ovyyus
: : I agree to your Idea.
: : The small weight at the end of the pendulum means
: : the unbalance is not so big in the wheel.
: : Thank you
: : SK
: : : Hi SK,
: : : While the pendulums seemed to accompany all drawings of Bessler's wheels, they were never reported by witnesses.
: : : The pendulums were intended as a speed controller. In this respect they would have functioned to decrease free running wheel speed while maintaining low speed torque. The earlier axle bolt speed brake controller method would have decreased wheel speed through friction alone, sacrificing low speed torque.
: : : Good luck with your attempt.
: : : Regards, ovyyus
: : :
: : : : Thank you for everyone who interesed to me.
: : : : I am very sorry for my English is too Bad.
: : : : But Scott has understand my question very well.
: : : : : When Bessler removed and replaced the weights in the wheel (such as when it was moved from one set of supports to another), is there any record of exactly where on the wheel the removal/replacement occurred? - Scott.
: : : : And to Georg K?stler:
: : : : I Think the number of weights is not 4.
: : : : I saw your idea from this site.
: : : : Also tried to understand your idea but it was very difficult.
: : : : Any way in my design, the number of the weights is not 4.
: : : : To Darren:
: : : : I think your comment is also important.
: : : : But bessler's wheel also need initial push, and start in a low speed and within 2 or 3 rotation the wheel get the maximum speed.
: : : : To achieve this the wheel need accuracy. In my case the diameter is 40 cm. Small wheel need great accuracy compare to bigger one.
: : : : To John:
: : : : Thank you for your effort to reveal the truth.
: : : : My wheel design is bi-directional. My wheel meet almost every clues in this site. Only one thing to make me confusing is arm.
: : : : It is very big different elastic arm or movable arm.
: : : : In the clue session :
: : : : Weights were attached to moveable or elastic arms on the periphery of the wheel.
: : : : This clue is very confusing clue.
: : : : And I have a question to everyone, about T-shaped pendulum in the picture.
: : : : What do you think about the pendulum.
: : : : Is it helpful to the wheel or just a load?
: : : : I think it is just a load.
: : : : Thank you for everyone's comments
: : : : Seok Kyun Oh (please call me SK : Seok kyun in Korea)