Posted by Scott Ellis (216.87.95.64) on November 07, 2001 at 15:04:12:
In Reply to: Energy source posted by Davis Landstrom on November 01, 2001 at 10:13:51:
Hi Davis,
Thanks for your interesting post. You are right that the energy source may have been the kinetic energy of the earth, as you describe in point 1. However, in the slingshot example, the smaller object receives energy from the linear momentum of the larger object, not its rotation. See this page for more info:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/doubal.html
The gravitational slingshot is like an elastic collision in which the objects never actually touch each other.
Many believe that the earth's kinetic energy is the most likely source of the Wheel's energy, since it would not require an entirely new conception of gravity. I'm not so sure. For one thing, our current conception of gravity is fairly primitive.
To me there are some obstacles to the gravitational slingshot effect explanation,
- how can the slingshot effect be harnessed in a small, localized space above the earth? It seems to require that the smaller object move completely around the larger object.
- assuming that the above problem were solved, it seems that the Wheel would have only worked on the side of the earth that is moving forward in space (based on what we know about how the slingshot effect works). Thus the Wheel's performance would have varied over time as the earth revolved (and been completely inoperative for 12 hours a day).
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As for the nopp gear rotor, it is described here:
http://www.evert.de/eft264e.htm
Evert says the model "did run." Does that mean it achieved PM? I don't know.
Best,
Scott
: The historical evidence in favour of Besslers wheel is well stacked in favour of the wheel being genuine. The main question is if Besslers wheel was genuine what provided the energy input required to cause its rotation.
: Here are two suggestions:
: 1.The Kinetic energy of the earth could have been the energy input for his machine. During slingshot, accelerations in speed are experienced, sling shot requires that an object falls into a gravity well where it is described as having negative potential energy, it accumulates energy from the rotation of the source of the gravity well and uses this energy win to break free of the gravity pull at a now increased speed.
: 2.If Besslers wheel was powered by gravitational force, thyen this force can no longer be classified as a force anymore as for ces are unable to do usefull work. In this instance we must suggest that the gravitational wave or graviton that causes gravitational attraction is an energy transfering exchange particle, but for this to occur there needs to be a source of energy to go into the creation of that graviton in the first place, my suggestion is that Gravitation is a product of matters interaction with the zero point field.
: Has anyone constructed the excenter nopp gear rotor on Evert fluid technologies (There is a link on this sight