Posted by Rob (208.17.229.201) on November 13, 2002 at 11:25:54:
In Reply to: Re: link to sketches? posted by Jeff on November 13, 2002 at 08:00:34:
I think the two arms of MT34 are quite visible! They would be the external pendulums that are in the wheel drawings. As Bessler himself said: "...whose two bearings (or sockets) with two curves around the axle provide the rotational motion of the whole vertically suspended wheel through application of pendula, which can be somewhat modified..." I haven't seen much commentary about these external (to the wheel) features. It would appear that the proportions of the linkages would not permit them to act in a full pendulum swing, but sort of the half swing motion as would the arms of MT34. I can also not help but wonder why the linkage where the pendula mechanism attaches to the wheel axle is a curvy thing. Does this convey the idea that its motion is "rocking" and not rotational?
: Thanks to Bill for the link to sketches. I hope Bill can sometime post the last or "toy" page of MT. I find that page very intriging as the line in Apologia Poetica: An anvil receives many blows. Sketches C and D on the toy page seem to speak directly to this. Also the scissors extending device(E on the toy page), similar to a scissors type of lift or jack, is present in many of the MT sketches (see MT 40). Could the toy page be the key to the different mechanisms in the machine? Somewhere it seems I saw the line in Apologia Poetica "Children play among the pillars with loud heavy clubs" translated as "Children play among the broken pillars...." The scissor device could appear as a "broken pillar". In his description of MT (Bessler's Writings page) Mike says that he at first thought MT 34 was the solution until he realized the two arms running the length of the axle would have been visible. I seem to remember in John Collins book that the axle of at least one of the single direction wheels was hollow. Could the two arms on MT 34 have been moved to the inside of the axle? If the two arms of MT 34 were combined with the scissors device of MT 40...hmmmm.
: : : Hi Scott & Rob,
: : : Scott has pretty much summed up the situation with my interpretations of the MT illustrations. I am hopeful that this situation will be resolved shortly, but these legal matters can be long and complicated and no fun at all.
: : : While my drawings are not presently linked to any page on orffyre.com, they still exist there - you just need to know where to look. Try this: www.orffyre.com/mt You'll find the first 60 or so of my drawings quietly hibernating in the dark waiting for Spring : : Very cool! I had a neat idea tonight of a wheel that always wants to turn if it's NOT turning...it's one-way, and speed-regulating, it looks NOTHING like any of those drawings, so it probably won't work, but who knows? I WILL try it, and you all posted... : : Vector Viper "I work better at night"