Posted by Michael (199.60.107.1) on July 05, 2003 at 13:57:34:
In Reply to: Re: Imminent discoverers posted by John Collins on July 05, 2003 at 08:50:10:
I fully fully agree with you John, because I too have been at the brink of what I thought was succees, many many times in the past and for many years . That's one of the reasons I never posted earlier. Nough said for now... Will post again later today or tomorrow.
Michael
: : : I want to say to those many people who release messages that they know how Bessler's wheel worked and are almost ready to reveal all, or put it to the test or challenge James Randi for his million dollar prize; and who are desperate that some else is close to succeeding and might beat their own efforts....you're not the only ones. I've been there, and I'm still there. But it's no good telling everyone about it until you've built a working model - believe me! Where is Darren's much heralded device? Or George's? Or my several versions? The same applies to Grim and Michael - I know that you are convinced utterly that you have the solution but take some advice from an expert on failure, wait 'til you've got the working model. By all means tell us of your progress, but try to hold back on the absolute certainty until you really know because you have the wheel rotating in front of you.
: : : I too, am on the brink of success - again! I'm certain, well I know because they write and tell me so, that there are literally dozens and dozens of others around the world, at any one time who are in the exactly the same situation and believe that success is almost upon them and they are just bursting to tell the world about it. But I urge caution because I know what the disappointment can be like when the machine fails to act as designed.
: : : Does it matter in the end who gets there first? I know it would be wonderful to be the first to produce a working gravity wheel, but in the end the most important thing is that someone, anyone, succeeds.
: : : JC
: :
: : You're quite correct, John. If you read my posts you'll see your point in them. I'm not saying this is the answer to anything (for the 98th time), just that it looks promising and deserves a well-made shot.
: : I never count my chickens, etc. Just to let you know, before offyre.com came up with MT, I built what can be seen now as MT63. No weights on bottom, topheavy sideheavy wheel, all big weights lifted by a 12:1 lever system with springs to
: : aid the timing. The timing, spring constants, etc. was extremely critical, but when the timing was right it was self-starting and ran, thumping with one pair of mechs only like an idling Harley. Was replicated by e-mailed
: : drawing to another, who got the same results. The only trouble was the reactions were so violent that it slowly beat itself to death, and from JB's and others' writings I determined that this was not the "smooth
: : startup" described by eyewitnesses, thus the efforts to smooth out the action resulted in a rethinking of the drawings and the interpretation of "New Text translation', leading to this latest test piece. Will know shortly, no claims
: : still as yet.
: : Regards
: :
: : grim
: Yes you're quite right Grim - apologies if I implied you were making premature claims :-)
: JC