The Real Johann Bessler's Wheel!

[TheVisitorV]

Pics to watch and take into consideration

3rd pick is with the bad links, where the things that i've described above, don't happen/or happen/ or both :))

[TheVisitorV]

There are 4 hammers, 2 weights, 2 handles, 2 handles = 1 linkage , 1 chain, 1 belt
The hammers handle the weights by the way of the linkages

Notice the lettering, 2 Cs 2 Ds but only 1 a 1 b 1 e, notice their placement

Chain connects hammers, not weights, WEIGHTS ARE NOT NOTED BY ANY LETTER, Belt connects hammers, the only connection between the weights and anything else in the system is by the way of linkages.

1 hammer goes down another 1 goes up, they twist/spin (D) always together keeping everything balanced outside the reach of gravitational pull, always either on the inside or on the outside

chain spins hammers in 1 direction, dots on the same side,

belt = X , dots on both sides, one goes clockwise the other one goes counterclockwise.


I'm not sure what else i can do, i really do not know...poverty destroyed me...fucking depression....

Dont you SEE IT????????

It took me a long time to get it but now i've explained it all to all of you

DONT YOU SEE IT???????????????????
COME ON!!!!!! LOOK AT IT !!!!
LOOOK AT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i can't take it anymore....

[JAL]

Visitor, with me, I believe that Bessler's drawings were to teach us mechanics.
" Further demonstrations regarding the possibility and impossibility of perpetual motion

NB. May 1, 1733. Due to the arrest, I burned and buried all papers that prove the possibility. However, I have left all demonstrations and experiments, since it would be difficult for anybody to see or learn anything about a perpetual motion from them or to decide whether there was any truth in them because no illustration by itself contains a description of the motion; however, taking various illustrations together and combining them with a discerning mind, it will indeed be possible to look for a movement and, finally to find one in them. "

- Johann Bessler, cover page of Maschinen Tractate

This is why I brought ME into this discussion. A neutral 3rd party. You can see what I am building. It is a lot of work. With me, if I could increase your chances of success, that would speak of what Bessler knew. I learned from him. If what I am building works, it's because I learned from Bessler.
If you are wondering, he is not God but what he knew is most interesting.

[TheVisitorV]

i'm sorry but it won't work, and the reason for it is cause you've not understood yet what made his machines to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O8Jt0Ccizc

[JAL]

Mechanical energy is different than the quantum states of matter. With what I am building, I have done many tests. It is basically over 13 years of work. It is time consuming. It is those years of experience that I ask you to consider what I have mentioned to you.
If you are wondering, I am not working under the best of circumstances. If life was good, I'd be doing something better. So I do understand what you are going through.

[TheVisitorV]

So, i managed to change the design of the hammers so the whole thing can be made a lot slimmer, there are still some things that i need to find a work around and simplify as much as possible.

Instead of that hammer shape used previously i used a big gear with an internal eccentric weight, it's basically the same thing, it fulfills the exact same function but it's a lot slimmer in z axis at the expense of the increase in the x axis. It's a good trade since the x axis is pretty long anyway and all that space was unused.



Anyway, the most important thing in the video is that you will see the relation between Mass, RPM and the distance between the teeth of the ratchet system, YES!!! that is very important as well believe it or not!

And of course, you will see how you can make something climb higher on Jacob's ladder ;), yes it's a true possibility, very real and quite easy.

I'm kind of jealous i'm doing all this for free while starving since what you will see has some very big implications and possibilities in the real world. Elevators for once, highly efficient system to raise stuff from the ground ....

oh well...who cares anyway...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZEgZ9Boak0

[TheVisitorV]

managed to make a chain, it seems it works in 9000hz but it takes like 1h for 1 sec of sim with so many pieces involved...my comp is so old...tried with lower frequencies but everything explodes

anyway, so far so good....i'm still waiting for the sim to end and i will run 2 more in different states tonight if i don't fall asleep. The result is as i expected, it works as i thought it will....

still there is a question of the belt, the belt that drives the chain, something that i'm pretty sure i can't do in this software....but...oh well....let me rephrase that, i am certain i can't do but maybe i'll get an idea on how to circumvent that....


Anyway, now for me the question is the conversion rate between the rim/belt/chain/weights/hammers ....how much weight should be unbalanced to get the hammers rotate at an enough speed so the cycle can repeat...

1/4? but 1/4 what exactly...

as you will see the ratchet teeth distance plays an extremely important role

hmmmm i wonder how all this will play out....maybe i will finish before the end of the world :))

that being said, i will upload the vids as soon as i have them...

[TheVisitorV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffo3qaj1jbM

It barely works, my computer, but there is nothing that i can do ..i'll try to talk with a friend , maybe he will help me render this and get a more smooth version to show you

Even so, it's obvious to me, the chain does what i've previously explained it will do

not sure where to go from here...

anyway, good night!

[TheVisitorV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIGWhttPn94

Very short vid this time :)

Horizontal axis test, 120rpm, can be much lower but that i will show another time

more to come soon!

[agor95]

Thank you for your work. I recommend with any project like this that stamina is required. So try not working as 200%.

Also I have at time hit software limitations so try to keep the door open to other technologies.

When carrying out a virtual build creating an abstract modeling.

So using a belt instead of a chain or programming a locked rotation between wheels via programming.

This is now Sci-Fi film makers check out the concept before committing to a major production run.

Thanks again for you quality work.

[TheVisitorV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGIY9e8SE-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkJ9NpNvK7Y


Ty Agor

These are the only 2 videos i will do on this subject for a while i think, there is no where to go from here...
No one is taking this seriously, not a big surprise but...still disappointing.

I sacrificed everything to get to this point, not even a shadow of a normal life, at least is not over yet.

I will try to get some money by the end of the year, not sure what kind of a job i can get, been unemployed for a while and anything that pays some decent money is considered a high end job in this country, maybe i will get lucky in some other way.

Anyway hopefully i will be successful.

[agor95]

Thank you for your work. I recommend with any project like this that stamina is required. So try not working at 200%.

You have members viewing your work and it gives them a vision of the possible.

Regards

[TheVisitorV]

Thx Agor, i am slave to planetary shifting, i was told more then 10 years ago by someone who knew and understood these things very well but i didn't believe until a couple of years ago when i started noticing (cause i started paying attention) my behavior is shifting according to moon phases but apparently there are other planetary influences as powerful as the moon in my life. It explains a lot to me, as i'm always jumping from one subject to another, either bursting till depletion or just vegging. My whole life was like this... I'm not big on astrology so i don't really understand the hows and whys...

This year around my birthday information about this device started popping into my head even if i did nothing regarding this type of research for months. Things started to connect in ways that never did before, almost like information was "downloaded" into my mind. Also some very interesting spiritual understandings came into my life and not only technical stuff.

The little hole that Bessler had and said that he used it to check and fix the wheel was for the trigger of the ratchet, i bet it jammed sometimes so he need it to give it a nudge btw, not sure if i told this before.

I also have issues into finding a proper design for this part, due to the nature of the beast, and the 360 rotation, it limits the possibilities a lot. Hopefully i will find something that works well soon.

[TheVisitorV]

Just for archive indexing purposes for later use:

MT24 like system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MICq5VcLfxE

Might be useful to prevent belt jerking when sliding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piO8VH_LTig
same but short animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90mo6NYQYyw
same: Compliant Overrunning Clutch - 3D printed : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHqf4kF5Wk

Interesting concept if timing is worked out fully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW6PuvflUrM

might hold the solution for my ratchet issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZt-L8xFLyU

Converting two way linear motion into one way rotation, solves more advanced problems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dJC8lqa8K0

Mechanism for converting two-way to one-way rotation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeotBGLVn7A

very interesting concept, holds keys for more advanced designs: Indexing Actuator Operation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqrjzqukQ48

Belt drive, straight and X : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVro9AMkPAU
real life example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkD-Ct6HkIg
x - diffrent design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvH_yjy7Ezc
x :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kGdXHsEwe8
multiple designs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM-j8loypDY
intresting, must watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7EYZoQm1WI
also lookup into serpentine belt drive

[TheVisitorV]

Note to self: learn solidworks