Clarification request for John Collins

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Posted by grim (206.162.192.40) on October 26, 2002 at 19:56:08:

Hello John

Hope all is going well with you. I have a clarification request if you don't mind. On the site in the "Clues" section, at the top, it quotes Bessler as writing (about the weights) that "one OR other must apply its weight....."etc etc. On the Orffyre site it quotes him as writing "one or ANother must apply its weight......." I know this sounds like picking at semantics, but which is correct? Gill Simo brought up the wording a few messages back and I believe he was on to something. There is a big difference between saying "one or other" and "one or ANother" because it could be a clue to the actual operating weights. I tend to subscribe to the school of thought that the "cylindrical weights" were simply noisemakers to throw observers off track of the true noise of the operating system. Adding up the weight of a "flimsy" wheel, even if oak was employed, the six-inch thick 6 ft. long axle with an iron rod centered in it and 8 approx. four pound weights would have a hard time adding up to any of the approximate
wheel physical weights. The construction could not have been that heavily done if he could break it up with an axe. There's apparently a lot of weight not accounted for.

Thanks for any light you can shed on this. Like Gill, I believe the semantics is important in this endeavor.

Regards

grim

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Re: Clarification request for John Collins Scott Ellis 14:53:52 10/27/02 (0)
Re: Clarification request for John Collins Øystein Rustad 01:54:15 10/27/02 (6)
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Re: Clarification request for John Collins John Collins 01:07:47 10/27/02 (7)

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Comments:	: Hello John : Hope all is going well with you. I have a clarification request if you don't mind. On the site in the "Clues" section, at the top, it quotes Bessler as writing (about the weights) that "one OR other must apply its weight....."etc etc. On the Orffyre site it quotes him as writing "one or ANother must apply its weight......." I know this sounds like picking at semantics, but which is correct? Gill Simo brought up the wording a few messages back and I believe he was on to something. There is a big difference between saying "one or other" and "one or ANother" because it could be a clue to the actual operating weights. I tend to subscribe to the school of thought that the "cylindrical weights" were simply noisemakers to throw observers off track of the true noise of the operating system. Adding up the weight of a "flimsy" wheel, even if oak was employed, the six-inch thick 6 ft. long axle with an iron rod centered in it and 8 approx. four pound weights would have a hard time adding up to any of the approximate : wheel physical weights. The construction could not have been that heavily done if he could break it up with an axe. There's apparently a lot of weight not accounted for. : Thanks for any light you can shed on this. Like Gill, I believe the semantics is important in this endeavor. : : Regards : : grim
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