Posted by Darren (65.35.126.126) on June 02, 2003 at 19:55:29:
In Reply to: Re: Question for John Collins posted by Lurker on June 02, 2003 at 16:19:30:
: : I'm dead serious about this... this is *not* just claim #128.
: : Thanks :-)
: : Darren
: Well, Darren, we ALL want to believe that, but until you produce a working device, or at least give a convincing theoretical reason for believing you, I'm afraid that most of us WON'T believe you.
Well then, I guess it's a good thing I'm not trying to get you to believe me. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant :-)
: We do believe that you are sincere, though perhaps a bit too paranoid and secretive about what you are doing.
I'm glad that shows through because I am sincere. As for being paranoid and secretive... well... I'm not the one named "lurker"... everyone knows my name :-)
: The fact is, even if you DO produce a working device, very few people will believe you.
Again, I don't really care if everyone believes me, I hope to introduce this via restricted and specific channels... select university professors, select *mainstream* science periodicals, and select *hardcore* skeptics. Get them to understand the foundation principle that drives the wheel and they can do the rest of the convincing themselves. I'm out of it after that point.
: You will still have to prove to the world that you are not a lier, fraud, scam artist, etc.
See above :-)
: Most likely you will just become another Bessler, taking the secret with you to the grave like hundreds of others before you, and too proud or selfish to share it with anyone.
Now who's paranoid?
: At first, you will think you will be able to somehow become wealthy by keeping your secret.
No, I would like this to happen like any other new invention or discovery... pretend it's the segway or something... reproduce it, document it, explain it, sell it once, let the big guys and the rest of the world take over. I don't plan to keep anything secret after I have established that I am the inventor and I get some small compensation. I don't want to rule the world, but I don't see anything wrong with wanting to make a small one time profit off something like this. What is it with all you people that say this is owed to the world... penicillin and other foundation medicines save millions of lives a year but you bet your ass that there are tons of people making a profit off those drugs. I don't even want that much, I'm not a greedy pharaceutical company, I'm just a regular guy, so please, don't pull that holier than thou crap on me.
: The problem is, hundreds of people already know the secret. They are also keeping the secret to themselves.
Right. Whatever.
: Some of those people are very wealthy, and they are willing to do extereme things to keep that wealth for themselves. You have been warned.
I better quit then, huh? Whew... thanks "Lurker." By the way... where do you get off telling *me* I'm paranoid and secretive?
Darren